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Post#1 » by sidney lanier » Tue Apr 4, 2017 2:30 pm

The heads of Bucks fans who play the blame-the-coach game must be spinning. These two NBA coaches of the month? It must feel like liver and onions being declared America's tastiest dish.

NEW YORK – The Milwaukee Bucks’ Jason Kidd and the Portland Trail Blazers’ Terry Stotts today were named the NBA Eastern and Western Conference Coaches of the Month, respectively, for games played in March. 
 
Kidd led the Bucks to an Eastern Conference-best 14-4 record, the franchise’s first calendar month with at least 14 victories since going 16-2 in February 1971.  Milwaukee had identical 7-2 records at home and away from the BMO Harris Bradley Center.  The road success featured wins over the East-leading Boston Celtics, the playoff-bound LA Clippers and the surging Trail Blazers.  The Bucks finished March in fifth place in the East – which is their current standing – after starting the month in 10th.        
 
Stotts guided the Trail Blazers to an NBA-best 13-3 record in March as Portland climbed into eighth place in the Western Conference.  Portland went 6-1 on the road, including victories against two West playoff teams, the San Antonio Spurs and the Oklahoma City Thunder.  The Trail Blazers closed the month on a five-game winning streak, highlighted by a 117-107 home victory over the West’s third-place team, the Houston Rockets, on March 30.  Stotts’ team led the NBA in three-point field goal percentage (41.7) and ranked third in field goal percentage (48.7) and fourth in scoring (111.3 ppg).            
 
Other nominees for the NBA Eastern and Western Conference Coaches of the Month were Boston’s Brad Stevens, Golden State’s Steve Kerr, Miami’s Erik Spoelstra, New Orleans’ Alvin Gentry, San Antonio’s Gregg Popovich, Toronto’s Dwane Casey, Utah’s Quin Snyder and Washington’s Scott Brooks.


Let the awards diminution begin. And congrats to two guys who have done pretty well with what they've been given and who understand what an NBA coach can and cannot do.
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Post#2 » by old skool » Tue Apr 4, 2017 2:59 pm

Pretty hard to argue against a coach who takes a lottery bound sub-.500 team on a late season 14-4 run.
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Post#3 » by M-C-G » Tue Apr 4, 2017 3:23 pm

sidney lanier wrote:The heads of Bucks fans who play the blame-the-coach game must be spinning. These two NBA coaches of the month? It must feel like liver and onions being declared America's tastiest dish.

NEW YORK – The Milwaukee Bucks’ Jason Kidd and the Portland Trail Blazers’ Terry Stotts today were named the NBA Eastern and Western Conference Coaches of the Month, respectively, for games played in March. 
 
Kidd led the Bucks to an Eastern Conference-best 14-4 record, the franchise’s first calendar month with at least 14 victories since going 16-2 in February 1971.  Milwaukee had identical 7-2 records at home and away from the BMO Harris Bradley Center.  The road success featured wins over the East-leading Boston Celtics, the playoff-bound LA Clippers and the surging Trail Blazers.  The Bucks finished March in fifth place in the East – which is their current standing – after starting the month in 10th.        
 
Stotts guided the Trail Blazers to an NBA-best 13-3 record in March as Portland climbed into eighth place in the Western Conference.  Portland went 6-1 on the road, including victories against two West playoff teams, the San Antonio Spurs and the Oklahoma City Thunder.  The Trail Blazers closed the month on a five-game winning streak, highlighted by a 117-107 home victory over the West’s third-place team, the Houston Rockets, on March 30.  Stotts’ team led the NBA in three-point field goal percentage (41.7) and ranked third in field goal percentage (48.7) and fourth in scoring (111.3 ppg).            
 
Other nominees for the NBA Eastern and Western Conference Coaches of the Month were Boston’s Brad Stevens, Golden State’s Steve Kerr, Miami’s Erik Spoelstra, New Orleans’ Alvin Gentry, San Antonio’s Gregg Popovich, Toronto’s Dwane Casey, Utah’s Quin Snyder and Washington’s Scott Brooks.


Let the awards diminution begin. And congrats to two guys who have done pretty well with what they've been given and who understand what an NBA coach can and cannot do.


As long as we admit to ourselves he also won Worst Coach of the Month in January, that's fine. As always the truth lies somewhere in between on most things in life.
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Post#4 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Apr 4, 2017 3:40 pm

Sam Mitchell and Mike Brown once won Coach of the Year. So yeah....the awards are pretty subjective and most of the time meaningless. That said, I'll vehemently argue against the notion that you need top-tier coaching to win championships in the NBA. You don't.
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Post#5 » by VooDoo7 » Tue Apr 4, 2017 3:49 pm

The people who think this win streak is because Kidd magically got his **** together are the same people who form opinions on players based on box scores.
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Post#6 » by Prez » Tue Apr 4, 2017 3:53 pm

This means absolutely nothing. If anything Middleton should be MVP.
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Post#7 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Apr 4, 2017 3:56 pm

Prez wrote:This means absolutely nothing. If anything Middleton should be MVP.


Middleton's been trash the last couple weeks and we've still been winning. So if anything, this just proves that you can be a pretty damn good team when the entire supporting cast around your superstar plays with any sort of consistency.
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Post#8 » by VooDoo7 » Tue Apr 4, 2017 4:01 pm

Mids was damn good in March, minus a few games.

It's no coincidence we started winning once he returned.
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Post#9 » by Sigra » Wed Apr 5, 2017 7:41 am

Not having Parker in rotation was also important because our defense is better without him
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Post#10 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Apr 5, 2017 8:18 am

Sigra wrote:Not having Parker in rotation was also important because our defense is better without him

It's not though.
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Post#11 » by sidney lanier » Wed Apr 5, 2017 2:49 pm

Sigra wrote:Not having Parker in rotation was also important because our defense is better without him


Good to see you posting, old friend. Here's a reminder of past discussions about one of the coaches honored, who you will recall was seen by some then as holding back a certain #1 pick.

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I don't remember the criticisms of Stotts being as mean-spirited and poorly thought out as those now made against Kidd. We all were a little frustrated by Stotts' reliance on Redd-Mo small ball, but there was a friendlier tone to the discussions and better support for arguments pro and con than we see now when the subject of Kidd comes up.
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Post#12 » by chonestown » Wed Apr 5, 2017 3:58 pm

sidney lanier wrote:I don't remember the criticisms of Stotts being as mean-spirited and poorly thought out as those now made against Kidd. We all were a little frustrated by Stotts' reliance on Redd-Mo small ball, but there was a friendlier tone to the discussions and better support for arguments pro and con than we see now when the subject of Kidd comes up.


There's a number of things that encouraged giving the benefit of the doubt to Stotts:
1) Ties to the successful Karl regime and Milwaukee hometown boy
2) Reputation as a top NBA assistant - paid his dues as a coach
3) Lack of personal baggage
4) No characterization as operating as a shadow GM
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Post#13 » by SKG » Wed Apr 5, 2017 4:32 pm

Giannis is the reason kidd has a job and some of the players not waived or traded
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Post#14 » by VooDoo7 » Wed Apr 5, 2017 10:41 pm

chonestown wrote:
sidney lanier wrote:I don't remember the criticisms of Stotts being as mean-spirited and poorly thought out as those now made against Kidd. We all were a little frustrated by Stotts' reliance on Redd-Mo small ball, but there was a friendlier tone to the discussions and better support for arguments pro and con than we see now when the subject of Kidd comes up.


There's a number of things that encouraged giving the benefit of the doubt to Stotts:
1) Ties to the successful Karl regime and Milwaukee hometown boy
2) Reputation as a top NBA assistant - paid his dues as a coach
3) Lack of personal baggage
4) No characterization as operating as a shadow GM


Here's my breakdown of why I hate Kidd.

80%- His coaching. **** coach who hasn't a damn clue of what he's doing. Such a stubborn SOB.

20%- He's a pile of sh*t person. Total weasel. And a woman beater. Honestly can't believe anyone likes him just based on that.

Stotts seems like a good guy. Quite a contrast to Kidd.
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Post#15 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Apr 5, 2017 10:45 pm

old skool wrote:Pretty hard to argue against a coach who takes a lottery bound sub-.500 team on a late season 14-4 run.

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Post#16 » by sidney lanier » Thu Apr 6, 2017 2:12 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:
old skool wrote:Pretty hard to argue against a coach who takes a lottery bound sub-.500 team on a late season 14-4 run.

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OK, now you're really going to get the Church Ladies riled up.
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Post#17 » by sidney lanier » Thu Apr 6, 2017 3:29 pm

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20%- He's a pile of sh*t person. Total weasel. And a woman beater. Honestly can't believe anyone likes him just based on that.

Stotts seems like a good guy. Quite a contrast to Kidd.


If the reports of the Lawrence Frank incident and others are accurate (a big if in these kinds of things), then yes, Kidd is at least opportunistic and controlling. So are many successful coaches. I don't have a problem with a Leo Durocher or Belichick type. I'm not looking for a best friend. Popovich, a model of sustained success, appears to be the biggest horse's ass in the league.

The "woman beater" accusation is more serious. Setting aside for a moment the broader issues of the objectification and resultant abuse of women in the NBA and other professional sports settings, I think you make a bad mistake presuming you know the behind-closed-doors details of Kidd's domestic life.

New Jersey Nets star Jason Kidd filed for divorce from his wife of 10 years Tuesday, accusing her of "extreme cruelty" throughout their marriage.

In the dissolution papers, filed in state Superior Court in Bergen County, Kidd accuses Joumana Kidd of physically and mentally abusing him, threatening to make false domestic violence complaints against him to police, and of interfering with his relationship with his children.

"The defendant's extreme and unwarranted jealousy and rage has left the plaintiff concerned about her emotional stability," the papers say. The divorce filing came less than a day after the 33-year-old NBA player filed a domestic violence complaint seeking a temporary restraining order against his wife.

His complaint, paints a detailed portrait of Joumana Kidd as jealous and paranoid wife prone to public outbursts and threats, including during a recent Nets game.

According to the complaint, Joumana Kidd used the couple's 8-year-old son on Dec. 27 to sneak into the Nets locker room and rummage through Jason Kidd's locker to find his cell phone. After looking up the names and numbers on it, the complaint said she left her son to behind as she went upstairs to take a front row seat, where she shouted insults at Kidd throughout the game.
The papers accuse Joumana Kidd of kicking, hitting, punching and throwing household objects at her husband as she became "increasingly controlling and manipulative" in the last few years of their union.

According to Kidd, his wife had tracking devices installed on his cars and computers and has harassed his trainer, friends and family.
The Kidds were married in 1997 and live in Saddle River. They were involved in a domestic violence matter six years ago when he was playing for the Phoenix Suns.

http://www.stlamerican.com/sports/local_sports/jason-kidd-divorce-gets-ugly/article_66d5f64c-bdb7-539a-ac1e-fc57e36706ea.html


Mrs. Kidd that was came back with counterclaims that he hit her with a rock and a cookie (that's right, you heard me) and bought her half-million-dollar jewelry to make up for his infidelity.

Being a poor sap in a codependent relationship doesn't qualify someone for weasel status in my view.
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Post#18 » by VooDoo7 » Thu Apr 6, 2017 10:04 pm

sidney lanier wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:
20%- He's a pile of sh*t person. Total weasel. And a woman beater. Honestly can't believe anyone likes him just based on that.

Stotts seems like a good guy. Quite a contrast to Kidd.


If the reports of the Lawrence Frank incident and others are accurate (a big if in these kinds of things), then yes, Kidd is at least opportunistic and controlling. So are many successful coaches. I don't have a problem with a Leo Durocher or Belichick type. I'm not looking for a best friend. Popovich, a model of sustained success, appears to be the biggest horse's ass in the league.

The "woman beater" accusation is more serious. Setting aside for a moment the broader issues of the objectification and resultant abuse of women in the NBA and other professional sports settings, I think you make a bad mistake presuming you know the behind-closed-doors details of Kidd's domestic life.

New Jersey Nets star Jason Kidd filed for divorce from his wife of 10 years Tuesday, accusing her of "extreme cruelty" throughout their marriage.

In the dissolution papers, filed in state Superior Court in Bergen County, Kidd accuses Joumana Kidd of physically and mentally abusing him, threatening to make false domestic violence complaints against him to police, and of interfering with his relationship with his children.

"The defendant's extreme and unwarranted jealousy and rage has left the plaintiff concerned about her emotional stability," the papers say. The divorce filing came less than a day after the 33-year-old NBA player filed a domestic violence complaint seeking a temporary restraining order against his wife.

His complaint, paints a detailed portrait of Joumana Kidd as jealous and paranoid wife prone to public outbursts and threats, including during a recent Nets game.

According to the complaint, Joumana Kidd used the couple's 8-year-old son on Dec. 27 to sneak into the Nets locker room and rummage through Jason Kidd's locker to find his cell phone. After looking up the names and numbers on it, the complaint said she left her son to behind as she went upstairs to take a front row seat, where she shouted insults at Kidd throughout the game.
The papers accuse Joumana Kidd of kicking, hitting, punching and throwing household objects at her husband as she became "increasingly controlling and manipulative" in the last few years of their union.

According to Kidd, his wife had tracking devices installed on his cars and computers and has harassed his trainer, friends and family.
The Kidds were married in 1997 and live in Saddle River. They were involved in a domestic violence matter six years ago when he was playing for the Phoenix Suns.

http://www.stlamerican.com/sports/local_sports/jason-kidd-divorce-gets-ugly/article_66d5f64c-bdb7-539a-ac1e-fc57e36706ea.html


Mrs. Kidd that was came back with counterclaims that he hit her with a rock and a cookie (that's right, you heard me) and bought her half-million-dollar jewelry to make up for his infidelity.

Being a poor sap in a codependent relationship doesn't qualify someone for weasel status in my view.

It was just a matter of time before someone defended Kidd hitting his wife. Bravo, sir. You should feel proud.

Even if Kidd's wife were a looney, that doesn't justify hitting a woman in my book. And all of the complaints he had on her was just his words. Being the weasel he is, I could definitely see him making that stuff up.

Oh, and Kidd brought all that up AFTER he got arrested for spousal abuse. Sounds like a lot of damage control to me.

Here's some fine reading for ya, if you wish. It lists all the issues Kidd has had since being in the league. The guy is a real scholar.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiV2Iys6pDTAhXC6YMKHfsHAvUQFggcMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.espn.com%2Fblog%2Fnew-york%2Fbrooklyn-nets%2Fpost%2F_%2Fid%2F19596%2Fhistory-of-jason-kidds-past-incidents&usg=AFQjCNG8knu9B59KX1Q2Vbop4xiU9OJnRg&sig2=a-o16OQcThSBJJKNJIGWIg

And from the article:

• In January 2001, Kidd was arrested for hitting his now ex-wife Joumana. He pleaded guilty to spousal abuse and was fined $200 and ordered to take anger management training. He was eventually traded to the Nets.
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Post#19 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Apr 6, 2017 10:07 pm

Guys, let's not go down that road. it won't end well. Debate Kidd based on his COACHING. Thank you.
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Post#20 » by VooDoo7 » Thu Apr 6, 2017 10:19 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Guys, let's not go down that road. it won't end well. Debate Kidd based on his COACHING. Thank you.

Ok, Kidd's COACHING sucks. :D

Not sure why we can't discuss his character tho. But you're the boss, so I will comply.

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