Go Get Mayo AND Love!!!

[Rockmaninoff]

I believe in life, you have to go after what you want.

Because of recent rumors involving Memphis possibly making a move for Beasley, and the Timberwolves having an interest in Bogut, I present to you all this four team blockbuster...

Milwaukee Bucks Incoming Players

OJ Mayo (#3 from Minnesota)
Kevin Love (#5 from Memphis via Miami)
Udonis Haslem
Daequan Cook
Marko Jaric

Miami Heat Incoming Players

Mike Miller
Mo Williams
Charlie Villanueva
Bucks 2008 1st round pick (#8 - Speights?)

Memphis Grizzlies Incoming Players

Michael Beasley (#2 from Miami)
Mark Blount

Minnesota Timberwolves Incoming Players

Andrew Bogut

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This for me is all about getting a young core with some star power. Mayo, Love, and Yi - surround them with veterans, and we may have something.

[trwi7]

Wow, that's terrible.

[LISTEN2JAZZ]

In case anyone wants to read it in a sensible format, I'll try and translate.

Bucks give: Bogut, Mo, Villanueva, #8
Bucks get: #3, #5, Haslem, Cook, Jaric

Heat give: #2, Haslem, Cook, Blount
Heat get: #8, Miller, Mo, Villanueva

Wolves give: #3, Jaric
Wolves get: Bogut

Grizz give: #5, Miller
Grizz get: #2, Blount

[LUKE23]

So basically Bogut/Westbrook/Mo/CV.

That is basically #3/#8/Mo/CV for #3/#5/Haslem/Cook/Jaric.

So that's #8/Mo/CV for #5/Haslem/Cook/Jaric.

I'll pass.

[Profound23]

I never saw a 4way trade that is terrible for all three teams involved, but I think this is possibly it.

But most importantly, it's worst for us. No TY.

[EastSideBucksFan]

Why go get Mayo and Love when you can go get LeBron and Duncan?


Amateurs

[Rockmaninoff]

Wow, that's terrible.

Thank you for your detailed reply.

In case anyone wants to read it in a sensible format, I'll try and translate.

I think this is pretty sensible (I didn't include those underlined links that make it garish). Everybody here knows who these guys are. There is also a link to the Espn Trade Machine at the top of the post.

I never saw a 4way trade that is terrible for all three teams involved, but I think this is possibly it.

Care to explain? It looks to me like Memphis needs someone who will sell tickets, the Heat need veteran shooters and an inside scorer, and Minnesota needs a center. It seems like we still need better talent.

Because I think Yi and Bogut are both 3rd options at the center position, I think one of them is expendable. Now, before I am permanently labeled a Bogut hater, I'd like to point out that my last 'big deal' involved Yi and Simmons going to New Jersey for Richard Jefferson, with Bogut staying as the the 3rd option.

Why go get Mayo and Love when you can go get LeBron and Duncan?


Amateurs

I know, right.

But seriously, I don't see how this is so out of the realm of possiblity, based on the rumors and where each of these teams are at in development.

I know this would be a ballsy move, but then most of the best talent in the NBA was picked in the top 5.

[jerrod]

don't worry, it's just draft fever, happens every year

just ride it out until early july then everything should be back to normal

[SheedsWeed]

Why in the hell would Miami even think about trading their #2 pick? That is so far from logical.

[Profound23]

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Care to explain? It looks to me like Memphis needs someone who will sell tickets, the Heat need veteran shooters and an inside scorer, and Minnesota needs a center. It seems like we still need better talent.

Because I think Yi and Bogut are both 3rd options at the center position, I think one of them is expendable. Now, before I am permanently labeled a Bogut hater, I'd like to point out that my last 'big deal' involved Yi and Simmons going to New Jersey for Richard Jefferson, with Bogut staying as the the 3rd option.

Sure I will explain.

Memphis needs a big name sure, but they give up a borderline allstar to move up 3 spots and take on a terrible contract. If the guy they take @2 ends up being a bust they really screwed themselves.

Minnesota, maybe they are the only one's who actually win. Then again they give up the #3 for Bogut, and OJ Mayo turns into a phenom and how stupid do they look?

Milwaukee, Yi is not a Center. And you say Bogut is a third option at center? Ok, well then Minnesota is really stupid if they trade the #3 pick for a guy who is the third option at center on a terrible team like Milwaukee.

Miami needs inside scoring......who gives them that Villenueva? He is a soft jump shooter who rarely works inside the arc. They could do better with the #2 pick I would hope than take all of our rejects and Mike Miller.

Everyone in your trade are taking risks, and not very well thought out one's. Every team loses, possibly one team wins out of the four.

[Ryan5UW]

[LISTEN2JAZZ]

I think this is pretty sensible (I didn't include those underlined links that make it garish). Everybody here knows who these guys are. There is also a link to the Espn Trade Machine at the top of the post.

It's not a matter of whether we know who the guys are. It's that it takes too long to figure out what the deal is from each team's perspective. Is it a good deal for Miami? Well first I have to scan through three different lists to figure out who they're sending out, and then keep that new list in my head while I compare it to who they're getting.

You always have a choice as to what format you post a trade in, so why wouldn't you choose the best possible format, to make it easy for your buddies here on realgm to understand?

At least it's not copied from the trade checker though. That's the worst. Two miles long as you scroll through ugly stats. I'm going to campaign for director of trade thread formatting.

[Chapter29]

I would not move Bogut in hopes that a draft pick pans out. Far too risky no thanks.

This is far to elaborate and unrealistic. I would really like to see a realistic deal that allows us to package our pick and a player not named Yi or Bogut to move up. I would target Mayo.

[Rockmaninoff]

Why in the hell would Miami even think about trading their #2 pick? That is so far from logical.

Hey, I'm just repeating various rumors. It's possible that Riley is saying he's not interested in Beasley, just as a way to force teams that are interested in Beasley to submit offers.

Memphis needs a big name sure, but they give up a borderline allstar to move up 3 spots and take on a terrible contract. If the guy they take @2 ends up being a bust they really screwed themselves.

Again, I'm just going off of the rumors that Memphis is interested in moving up for Beasley.

Minnesota, maybe they are the only one's who actually win. Then again they give up the #3 for Bogut, and OJ Mayo turns into a phenom and how stupid do they look?

Well that's up to Kevin McHale. Do you cement your front court, or take a chance on a guard who will most likely not mix well with Foye and McCants?

Milwaukee, Yi is not a Center. And you say Bogut is a third option at center? Ok, well then Minnesota is really stupid if they trade the #3 pick for a guy who is the third option at center on a terrible team like Milwaukee.

Yi not being a center is all semantics. If Brook Lopez doesn't rebound well or score at a high percentage inside, is he still a center? Or, Mehmet Okur for that matter. I guess he isn't a center because he isn't a beefy slug.

No, Bogut and Yi are 3rd options on a good team.

Miami needs inside scoring......who gives them that Villenueva? He is a soft jump shooter who rarely works inside the arc. They could do better with the #2 pick I would hope than take all of our rejects and Mike Miller.

No, but this leaves them in position to make a run at Brand or draft a guy like Speights at #8. Again, the rumor is Riley doesn't want the #2 pick. That is probably totally false, but I'm just trying to have a discussion.

Everyone in your trade are taking risks, and not very well thought out one's. Every team loses, possibly one team wins out of the four.

I don't think it's that easy to say every team loses. That's just bah humbug. Don't all of these teams need to take a risk at this point? I mean, what is there to really gain from taking a role player at #8?

You always have a choice as to what format you post a trade in, so why wouldn't you choose the best possible format, to make it easy for your buddies here on realgm to understand?

I was lazy this morning. I will do better next time.


Anyway...

All I'm trying to say is that if the team were going to rebuild with youth, this is one of the better theories for doing that. Getting the 2nd best guard and forward prospects in the draft, both quasi household names to the sporting public, isn't that big of a risk.

[Rockmaninoff]

I would really like to see a realistic deal that allows us to package our pick and a player not named Yi or Bogut to move up. I would target Mayo.

Now, that's unrealistic.

[LISTEN2JAZZ]

I think getting #3 is realistic. Trade Redd/Villanueva/#37 for the Clippers' pick, and then trade #7/#8/Mason for Jaric/#3. You could say that's not a good deal for the Bucks, but I think both other teams would agree to it.

[bigballajohn]

if mayo is available at the 8th spot, we take him. he is the third most talented player in this draft. i could c how he could drop, think rudy gay in the 2008 draft. he was the most talented prospect for his age, and will prolly end up as the 2nd best player in the draft after brandon roy. i think that both beasley and rose will be better than mayo, but he would still be the best choice at the 8 spot

[zmanishere11]

I love Mayo and Love, both are actually good basketball players (as in, they know how to win and play the game as a team).

The idea is great, but dumb it down a bit:

CV and #8 to Memphis for #5

Bogut to MIN for #3

If you're going to trade Bogut, we need a center, so:

Mo/Gadz to CLE for Varejo/Snow/#19 (and whatever's needed to make it work.

Now we're looking at:

Mayo/Sessions
Redd/Bell
Simmons/Dez
Love/Yi
Varejo/Hibbert(#19)

[Rockmaninoff]

I love Mayo and Love, both are actually good basketball players (as in, they know how to win and play the game as a team).

The idea is great, but dumb it down a bit:

CV and #8 to Memphis for #5

Bogut to MIN for #3

If you're going to trade Bogut, we need a center, so:

Mo/Gadz to CLE for Varejo/Snow/#19 (and whatever's needed to make it work.

Now we're looking at:

Mayo/Sessions
Redd/Bell
Simmons/Dez
Love/Yi
Varejo/Hibbert(#19)

I like the way you think my man. At least you didn't poo-poo the idea right off the bat.

If we did that Cleveland deal, I'd take CDR at #19, but otherwise I like what I see.

[Profound23]

And we are hoping Love is as good as Bogut.

Mayo may not even be as good as Mo.

Varejo is no better than what we have at PF, and we are making him into a Center.

That sounds horrible.