xTitan wrote:Mo Williams is a very good, extremely undersized shooting guard. Williams has a very low basketball IQ, does not have any natural PG instincts in terms of running an offense. Mo is terrible at passing the ball to his teammmates at the correct time and putting it in the correct place, has no leadership skills, and is selfish.
If Mo is an undersized shooting guard like you say, Mo is actually an elite passer for his position. 2nd in asts among SG's beind Iverson.
. I have a real problem with those extremely intelligent posters who claim he plays hard, he runs fast and gets his shot, if that is playing hard then he is the hardest player in the world, if you are smart enough to include defensive effort and the ability to make players around you better, then he does not play hard at all.
Mo doesn't play hard? Even Europa concedes Mo plays hard. He has a great work ethic and has gotten better every season into the league. Mo won't become an allstar next year, he will though probably get better.
th87 wrote:
And who's to say he won't improve upon his weaknesses?
Agreed. We brought in one of the 3 best defensive coaches in the league, and with Mo's work ethic I can see Mo being mediocre.
adamcz wrote:
Now Mo isn't as exciting a performer as Gil is, but their impact on wins isn't vastly different. They are both gifted scorers (with Gil being better around the basket and with insane range, and Mo being better in the midrange) who pass moderately well. They also both lack interest in playing defense. At equal salaries, I would rather have Arenas, mostly because he is more fun to watch. But at $20 million for Arenas vs $9 million for Mo? Such a deal ought to raise Mo's trade value.
Very good question. I have seen what giving a max deal to a non elite player can do to a team. I'll take Mo.
He is an offensive force. I don't care what anyone says, but the name of the game is putting the ball in the basket and Mo does it almost as well as any PG in the league. He's efficient, shoots well from all over the court and is a proven fourth quarter, crunch time performer.
Very underrated quality imo.
I think the mythical true point guard is a deserved tounge in cheek jab. There aren't many of the type of point guards that make their teammates better. Paul and Williams, plus the aging Kidd and Nash (and Billups?). Once we start talking about the next level down - Blake, Ford, Hinrich, Davis, Miller - then we have to argue all day long about whether they truly do whatever it is the "true" pg does. I'm not saying they don't - just saying it's a fact that people argue it on the boards of those guys' teams. We had a couple of those guys on our team and we argued about it all the time.
Yep. I'd be fine with people admitting they want a guy like Eric Snow as the PG, I just can't stand the "need a guy with good court vision" BS. We aren't getting a better passing/playing making PG then Mo. We just aren't.
What those people seem to miss is that Mo being a shoot first PG wouldnt be so bad if he didnt take garbage selfish shots.
Yea having the 2nd best mid range jumper is such a garbage shot.
REDDzone wrote: If he was even good enough defensively to be labeled as "just below average", I wouldn't even consider trading him. Honestly.
You don't think Skiles could get him to that?