Duhon deal with Knicks

[Jez2983]

Couldn't see this anywhere else. Here's one off the list:

Sean Deveney
Sporting News


After four years with the Bulls, point guard Chris Duhon is moving on, verbally agreeing to a deal with the Knicks on Friday, according to Duhon and his agent, Kevin Bradbury.

Bradbury could not comment on the terms of the deal. But a source said it was a major commitment on the part of the Knicks -- a two-year deal starting at the full mid-level exception. The value of the mid-level exception will be announced on July 9 (when contracts can officially be signed) but it's expected to be about $5.8 million, making Duhon's total contract worth around $12 million.


"I am just excited, I am ready to get to work for the Knicks," Duhon said. "It's a big stage, playing in New York. It's something every player in the NBA wants."

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[bigkurty]

I guess i just don't get it. Sure Duhon has played limited minutes but honestly he is just not that good either. Look at this:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/s ... yerId=2377
With those kind of stats, he is at best a backup PG. His FG% is atrocious and his PER is terrible too. I suppose you could argue his defense is good and his assist/TO ratio is good but come on, the guy is just not worth 6 million a year. However Gadz gets paid around the same so I suppose anything is possible.

[Wise1]

More and more likely that Mo will be a Buck next season. I don't think Miami needs Mo at this point with Chalmers there and reports that they are interested in Dooling (Chalmers and Dooling are two guys that can play defense). Still no reports leaked about ANY team being interested in taking on Mo.

Mo/Sessions 08. Not too bad.

[Whiteman]

That's a lot of money for a backup.

[WEFFPIM]

That's a lot of money for a backup.

For a backup that's not terribly good, too.

[Jez2983]

Whiteman wrote:
That's a lot of money for a backup.

For a backup that's not terribly good, too.

To look at it another way, I think Mo is 3 million a year better than Duhon. If this is how much it would've taken to get Duhon here, Hammond has made another good call.

As from the Knicks point of view, well, I guess they only signed him to a 2 year contract. Quite clearly Galliani/Duhon EC champs 09 though.

[tedbrogen]

I think this helps the Bucks actually.

If the value of Duhon is almost $6M, then Mo at $8M doesn't sound bad.

It takes a guy off the market that probably wouldn't have helped them that much, and he ends up on a team that may have pursued similar options the Bucks might (Felton).

It forces teams looking for a PG (who don't want to subject themselves to the 3rd string legend Lue) to look to the trade market, possibly directing more buyers to call the Bucks.

Call me skeptical, but I just can't see the Heat going into the season with two rookie starters (Beasley and Chalmers) or Dooling in their starting lineup.

Not to mention, Mo can score, that's not in question. Someone will come knocking before the season starts looking for that.

[JoeHova]

The Bucks dodged a bullet here if they had any interest in Duhon. Honestly, Royal Ivey isn't that much worse and he can be had for the minimum. I don't get the Duhon love that some people have, this signing is practically as bad as the Jared Jeffries or Jerome James signings. The only thing that saves it is that it's a much shorter deal.

A lot of backup PGs seem to benefit from the backup catcher syndrome, where people assume that because a guy is so terrible offensively, he must be good at defense. It's not true, plenty of guys are bad at both.

According to 82games.com, Duhon's opponent PER was practically as bad as Mo's while he did nowhere near as much as Mo on offense to make up for it (also, Ivey's opponent PER was much worse than Mo's, as was Sessions'. Apparently, Mo is Milwaukee's best defensive PG).

[ManicBullsFan]

Duhon can run an offense and has good defence. So, he gets paid but he does a lot that doesn't fit into a boxscore.

[NeedsMoreCheese]

Duhon can run an offense and has good defence. So, he gets paid but he does a lot that doesn't fit into a boxscore.

You mean all the stuff that does fit onto a bar tab though?

[andonewheel]

Yikes, at least the deal was only for two years. I suppose the money isn't an issue for NY as long as they have financial flexibility in 2010.

I don't think Duhon is worth the full MLE. Does NY think he's going to be their starting PG?

[Chapter29]

NY has no limit to its spending.

The full MLE for a backup who isn't that good at all. I would start Sessions over him.

So now where do they sit capwise? Just under 100M maybe? And they still suck? Well guys maybe 150M will do the trick.

[ManicBullsFan]

yes, he likes the drink

[NeedsMoreCheese]

NY has no limit to its spending.

The full MLE for a backup who isn't that good at all. I would start Sessions over him.

So now where do they sit capwise? Just under 100M maybe? And they still suck? Well guys maybe 150M will do the trick.

Theyre around 90 before adding him. (And amazingly have 30 million in expirings)

Well actually, add in Duhons, and Danilos contracts and theyre likely around 100 yeah.

[paulpressey25]

Great move on the Knicks part. They had to outbid Orlando so the upped the money but not the length of the deal. It is only two years. The killer contracts are those 4-6 year jobs like we've tossed out to all our overpaid players over the past decade.

I would have loved a Sessions/Duhon combo here. Would it have cost us $12 million? Sure. But we would not have had to give up an asset like a player or pick. So even though you overpay him, you have to take that into consideration.

[NeedsMoreCheese]

Great move on the Knicks part. They had to outbid Orlando so the upped the money but not the length of the deal. It is only two years. The killer contracts are those 4-6 year jobs like we've tossed out to all our overpaid players over the past decade.

I would have loved a Sessions/Duhon combo here. Would it have cost us $12 million? Sure. But we would not have had to give up an asset like a player or pick. So even though you overpay him, you have to take that into consideration.

I think thats without question the worst defensive pairing at PG ever.

[paulpressey25]

I think thats without question the worst defensive pairing at PG ever.

You're right, I'd much rather forge ahead with Mo/Boykins.......

[NeedsMoreCheese]

I think thats without question the worst defensive pairing at PG ever.

You're right, I'd much rather forge ahead with Mo/Boykins.......

Id take that pairing over the Duhon/Nate Robinson one the Knicks now have

[paulpressey25]

Doesn't Mo live near you in the Falls? Is he a year round resident here?

[REDDzone]

Great move on the Knicks part. They had to outbid Orlando so the upped the money but not the length of the deal. It is only two years. The killer contracts are those 4-6 year jobs like we've tossed out to all our overpaid players over the past decade.

I would have loved a Sessions/Duhon combo here. Would it have cost us $12 million? Sure. But we would not have had to give up an asset like a player or pick. So even though you overpay him, you have to take that into consideration.

I think thats without question the worst defensive pairing at PG ever.

Am I missing something? I thought Duhon was a defensive specialist? I may be way off, but I always thought he was one of those guys who probably wouldn't be in the league without his defense. (It has to be that, right? He sucks at everything else.)