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Rank each starting position for the Central

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Re: Rank each starting position for the Central 

Post#21 » by Rockmaninoff » Fri Aug 8, 2008 2:37 pm

Point Guard

    1. Chauncey Billups - Pistons
    2. TJ Ford - Pacers
    3. Mo Williams - Bucks
    4. Kirk Hinrich - Bulls
    5. Delonte West - Cavaliers

Shooting Guard

    1. Richard Hamilton - Pistons
    2. Michael Redd - Bucks
    3. Mike Dunleavy - Pacers
    4. Larry Hughes - Bulls
    5. Wally Szczerbiak - Cavaliers

Small Forward

    1. LeBron James - Cavaliers
    2. Richard Jefferson - Bucks
    3. Danny Granger - Pacers
    4. Luol Deng - Bulls
    5. Tayshaun Prince - Pistons

Power Forward

    1. Antonio McDyess - Pistons
    2. Drew Gooden - Bulls
    3. Charlie Villanueva - Bucks
    4. Troy Murphy - Pacers
    5. Ben Wallace - Cavaliers

Center

    1. Zydrunas Ilgauskas - Cleveland
    2. Andrew Bogut - Bucks
    3. Rasheed Wallace - Pistons
    4. Jeff Foster - Pacers
    5. Joakim Noah - Bulls

Bench

    1. Pistons
    2. Cavaliers
    3. Bulls
    4. Bucks
    5. Pacers

Coach

    1. Scott Skiles - Bucks
    2. Mike Brown - Cavaliers
    3. Jim O'Brien - Pacers
    4(Tie). Michael Curry - Pistons
    4(Tie). Vinny Del Negro - Bulls
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Re: Rank each starting position for the Central 

Post#22 » by LUKE23 » Fri Aug 8, 2008 2:47 pm

I don't see how Z is better than Bogut. Very comparable peripheral numbers but Z shot almost 4% less from the field than Bogut did, which is significant. Also, Z is not getting any better and could very likely decline this season, Bogut is still improving.
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Re: Rank each starting position for the Central 

Post#23 » by Rockmaninoff » Fri Aug 8, 2008 2:54 pm

LUKE23 wrote:I don't see how Z is better than Bogut. Very comparable peripheral numbers but Z shot almost 4% less from the field than Bogut did, which is significant. Also, Z is not getting any better and could very likely decline this season, Bogut is still improving.


Ya, I went back and forth on that one, but as I have it NOW, I feel that Z is just slightly ahead of him. I'm factoring in team success, a slightly better rebound rate, and free throw percentage. It is very close.

Same for Michael Redd and Richard Hamilton. Very close, but team success seperates them.
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Re: Rank each starting position for the Central 

Post#24 » by jerrod » Fri Aug 8, 2008 2:58 pm

ok, my list. players that will be the best for just the next season

pg
billups
mo
tj
rose (i'll put hinrich at the 2 for this)
west

sg
rip
redd
dunleavy
hinrich
gibson/sczerbiak (convenient how i don't have to change the list based on which one plays)

sf
lebron
prince
rj
deng
granger (wow, i'd say the worst sf is far far better than at least the 3rd best 2guard)

pf
mcdyess
gooden
cv
murphy
ben (he plays the 4 now?)

center
bogut
sheed
z
noah
foster
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Re: Rank each starting position for the Central 

Post#25 » by Balls2TheWalls » Fri Aug 8, 2008 3:00 pm

I feel like the only skill that Z has that Bogut isn't better at is hard fouling without getting called for it. He is an old man, and I just don't see him outperforming Bogut.
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Re: Rank each starting position for the Central 

Post#26 » by Balls2TheWalls » Fri Aug 8, 2008 3:02 pm

I agree completely with jerrod's list except I think that I would rate Wallace above Bogut at the center position.
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Re: Rank each starting position for the Central 

Post#27 » by crkone » Fri Aug 8, 2008 3:13 pm

Sheed isn't that good. 12.7 pts on 43.2% and 6.6 rebs from your starting center is not going to cut it. He does play pretty good defense but Bogut's is just as good.

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Re: Rank each starting position for the Central 

Post#28 » by jerrod » Fri Aug 8, 2008 3:16 pm

Balls2TheWalls wrote:I agree completely with jerrod's list except I think that I would rate Wallace above Bogut at the center position.



i had em pretty close
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Re: Rank each starting position for the Central 

Post#29 » by Sigra » Sat Aug 9, 2008 4:14 pm

PG:
1. Billups
2. Rose
3. Ford
4. Williams
5. West

SG:
1. Hamilton
2. Redd
3. Dunleavy
4. Hughes
5. who ever does it for Cavs

SF:
1. James
2. Jefferson
3. Prince
4. Deng
5. Granger

PF:
1. Gooden
2. Wallace
3. McDyess
4. Murphy
5. CV

C:
1. Bogut
2. Wallace
3. Ilgauskas
4. Foster
5. Noah
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Re: Rank each starting position for the Central 

Post#30 » by Nowak008 » Sat Aug 9, 2008 9:38 pm

Balls2TheWalls wrote:I agree completely with jerrod's list except I think that I would rate Wallace above Bogut at the center position.



Agreed. Also I'd put Foster ahead of Noah.


People still have Ford ahead of Williams? Really?


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