12/19/08: Around the NBA

trwi7 · Post #21 » by **trwi7** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:56 am

midranger wrote:As promised, TJ Ford has lost his job to Jarret Jack.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2008121911

lawrybeard · Post #22 » by **lawrybeard** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:07 am

Millsap's double double steak was sure to end tonight after finishing with 14/6 in regulation, but double OT saved it.

xTitan · Post #23 » by **xTitan** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:16 am

Devin Harris humiliates Kidd.......hmmmmm, Harris would look awfully great playing back home right now.

midranger · Post #24 » by **midranger** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:22 am

xTitan wrote:Devin Harris humiliates Kidd.......hmmmmm, Harris would look awfully great playing back home right now.

You're only saying that because he's from Wisconsin.

LUKE23 · Post #25 » by **LUKE23** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:24 am

Man Devin has been a stud pickup for me in fantasy. My current bench backcourt is Baron Davis and Nate Robinson, backing Devin and Ray. I thought Harris would improve this year, but this much? It's insane.

xTitan · Post #26 » by **xTitan** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:30 am

midranger wrote:
xTitan wrote:Devin Harris humiliates Kidd.......hmmmmm, Harris would look awfully great playing back home right now.

You're only saying that because he's from Wisconsin.

you know better than that....i actually thought i posted a very good 3 team trade last year involving the Bucks, Nets, and Mavs....

LUKE23 · Post #27 » by **LUKE23** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:31 am

Mid was kidding I'm pretty sure.

midranger · Post #28 » by **midranger** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:33 am

I always thought Harris was an okay player and never understood the "only because he's from Wisconsin" crowd. However, I never thought he was a super special guy. His play has shocked me this year.

BTW, now that TJ has lost another starting job, how long until he starts bitching and needs to be traded again?

midranger · Post #29 » by **midranger** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:33 am

LUKE23 wrote:Mid was kidding I'm pretty sure.

Definitely.

THE DINJ · Post #30 » by **THE DINJ** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:38 am

bayrdbandit wrote:raptors are in all sorts of ****.

Couldn't happen to a better fan base.

xTitan · Post #31 » by **xTitan** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:38 am

Harris is a very bright guy, who is extremely fast, and plays defense.....I thought the offense would come and it has........Dallas screwed themselves with that horrible deal. As it turns out Avery Johnson wanted to keep Harris, even though he was very tough on him, and that ended up being his downfall.

stellation · Post #32 » by **stellation** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:42 am

Even though it was in a double overtime loss, it must suck to be TJ- lose your starting job and do well enough off the bench with 17/6 but the guy starting gets 27/7... and turned it over 2 less times in 10 more minutes.

trwi7 · Post #33 » by **trwi7** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:44 am

xTitan wrote:Harris is a very bright guy, who is extremely fast, and plays defense.....I thought the offense would come and it has........Dallas screwed themselves with that horrible deal. As it turns out Avery Johnson wanted to keep Harris, even though he was very tough on him, and that ended up being his downfall.

Pretty funny. Nets got the best player, the player with the most potential, salary flexibility and two picks for an over-the-hill PG that had declined.

Why did Dallas think they could compete for a championship with Kidd/Howard/Dirk? That's no better and probably worse than Kobe/Pau/Bynum, Paul/West/Chandler, Williams/Boozer/Okur, McGrady/Artest/Yao, Nash/Amare/Shaq and Parker/Ginobili/Duncan.

jokeboy86 · Post #34 » by **jokeboy86** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:46 am

xTitan wrote:Harris is a very bright guy, who is extremely fast, and plays defense.....I thought the offense would come and it has........Dallas screwed themselves with that horrible deal. As it turns out Avery Johnson wanted to keep Harris, even though he was very tough on him, and that ended up being his downfall.

You could almost compare Harris's situation to Tony Parker. Popovich was really hard on Parker from the day he walked in and look at Parker. Avery was tougher on Harris than any other player and he is now looking like the top 5 pick he was. And the scary thing about Harris is I think he could even be better than he is right now. Who knows maybe there's a snowball's chance in hell that we could get Harris. He's one of the few players in the league that I think would honestly have no problem coming to Milwaukee and would actually want to come here

LUKE23 · Post #35 » by **LUKE23** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:46 am

Yeah, that Kidd/Harris trade turned out being an ass-raping by Jersey.

REDDzone · Post #36 » by **REDDzone** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:23 am

Do we know for sure that Ford lost his starting job?

From my understanding he was on limited minutes due to injury.

Mags FTW · Post #37 » by **Mags FTW** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:15 am

steger_3434 wrote:
trwi7 wrote:Raptors trailing by six with 30 seconds left. Gonna head over to their board to read.

I'm right behind you.

I was working tonight and missed the implosion. Apparently they had 9 locked threads right after the game.

Post #38 » by **ReasonablySober** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:31 am

The PG thread on the Raps board is absolutely outstanding.

El Duderino · Post #39 » by **El Duderino** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:37 am

trwi7 wrote:
xTitan wrote:Harris is a very bright guy, who is extremely fast, and plays defense.....I thought the offense would come and it has........Dallas screwed themselves with that horrible deal. As it turns out Avery Johnson wanted to keep Harris, even though he was very tough on him, and that ended up being his downfall.

Pretty funny. Nets got the best player, the player with the most potential, salary flexibility and two picks for an over-the-hill PG that had declined.

Why did Dallas think they could compete for a championship with Kidd/Howard/Dirk? That's no better and probably worse than Kobe/Pau/Bynum, Paul/West/Chandler, Williams/Boozer/Okur, McGrady/Artest/Yao, Nash/Amare/Shaq and Parker/Ginobili/Duncan.

Even though i didn't envision Harris becoming this good, i didn't understand that trade when it happened. Cuban wasn't going to win the West and all he was doing was trading for a name, an old name that can't score and lost his foot speed to defend. To think Dallas had to throw in two first round picks for the right to get raped in the swap between Harris/Kidd would be like getting prison raped without any lube and then having to buy the booty bandits a few carton of smokes for being kind enough to not bash your face in.

That's one of those trades that can badly hurt a franchise for a long while while single handedly helping turn around another one.

Mags FTW · Post #40 » by **Mags FTW** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:17 am

So do we shift our mindset from trading Redd to a panicked Colangelo, to trying to get Bosh in a fire sale?