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Re: Nemanja Bjelica

Postby Grits n Gravy on Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:03 pm

caja laboral are going fishing, poor game from nemanja but hopefully he has played his last game in spain
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Re: Nemanja Bjelica

Postby Fire Mchale on Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:11 pm

Grits n Gravy wrote:caja laboral are going fishing, poor game from nemanja but hopefully he has played his last game in spain


I've seen so very little of Bjelica play - other than clips of him on youtube - can his game translate to the NBA? More importantly, has anyone in Europe every heard of P90X? Why do these guys all look like they drink a dozen beers with a pack of smokes after every game? It's called lifting weights.....get to know it.

I vividly remember the telecast they had of the Wolves draftees the year he was drafted - I so badly want to see him on the Wolves and see him contribute. From what I've seen, he's maybe a 9th or 10th man in a rotation, but with his size and ability to put it on the floor I think he would be a difficult matchup off the bench if he added some strength.
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Re: Nemanja Bjelica

Postby Raptor_Claw on Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:53 am

Fire Mchale wrote:
Grits n Gravy wrote:caja laboral are going fishing, poor game from nemanja but hopefully he has played his last game in spain


I've seen so very little of Bjelica play - other than clips of him on youtube - can his game translate to the NBA? More importantly, has anyone in Europe every heard of P90X? Why do these guys all look like they drink a dozen beers with a pack of smokes after every game? It's called lifting weights.....get to know it.

I vividly remember the telecast they had of the Wolves draftees the year he was drafted - I so badly want to see him on the Wolves and see him contribute. From what I've seen, he's maybe a 9th or 10th man in a rotation, but with his size and ability to put it on the floor I think he would be a difficult matchup off the bench if he added some strength.


Every high level European team has mandatory weight training for all of their players. For example, just about every Euroleague team has a full scale weight room right in their own arena or training facility.
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Re: Nemanja Bjelica

Postby Grits n Gravy on Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:49 pm

nemanja article from a few months ago:
http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH ... de_on.html

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Re: Nemanja Bjelica

Postby Fire Mchale on Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:27 pm

Raptor_Claw wrote:
Fire Mchale wrote:
Grits n Gravy wrote:caja laboral are going fishing, poor game from nemanja but hopefully he has played his last game in spain


I've seen so very little of Bjelica play - other than clips of him on youtube - can his game translate to the NBA? More importantly, has anyone in Europe every heard of P90X? Why do these guys all look like they drink a dozen beers with a pack of smokes after every game? It's called lifting weights.....get to know it.

I vividly remember the telecast they had of the Wolves draftees the year he was drafted - I so badly want to see him on the Wolves and see him contribute. From what I've seen, he's maybe a 9th or 10th man in a rotation, but with his size and ability to put it on the floor I think he would be a difficult matchup off the bench if he added some strength.


Every high level European team has mandatory weight training for all of their players. For example, just about every Euroleague team has a full scale weight room right in their own arena or training facility.


This is all well and good- do they have anyone there who knows how to use it?
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Re: Nemanja Bjelica

Postby Raptor_Claw on Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:46 pm

Fire Mchale wrote:This is all well and good- do they have anyone there who knows how to use it?


Every team has certified trainers and required training. Not only that, they actually spend more money on developing training methods than NBA teams do. For instance, the NBA is usually 5 years behind in the training methods.

The big soccer clubs spend tons of money on the training, and the training advancements are then used in the basketball clubs.

So I'm not sure what you are trying to say here.
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Re: Nemanja Bjelica

Postby Fire Mchale on Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:04 pm

Raptor_Claw wrote:
Fire Mchale wrote:This is all well and good- do they have anyone there who knows how to use it?


Every team has certified trainers and required training. Not only that, they actually spend more money on developing training methods than NBA teams do. For instance, the NBA is usually 5 years behind in the training methods.

The big soccer clubs spend tons of money on the training, and the training advancements are then used in the basketball clubs.

So I'm not sure what you are trying to say here.


What I'm saying is that Bjelica badly needs to work on his body to make an impact in the NBA - the same can be said of many of the Euro players coming over. I was being sarcastic regarding European training methods. I get that they have gyms, they just seldom send ripped athletes to the NBA.
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Re: Nemanja Bjelica

Postby Raptor_Claw on Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:43 pm

Fire Mchale wrote:
Raptor_Claw wrote:
Fire Mchale wrote:This is all well and good- do they have anyone there who knows how to use it?


Every team has certified trainers and required training. Not only that, they actually spend more money on developing training methods than NBA teams do. For instance, the NBA is usually 5 years behind in the training methods.

The big soccer clubs spend tons of money on the training, and the training advancements are then used in the basketball clubs.

So I'm not sure what you are trying to say here.


What I'm saying is that Bjelica badly needs to work on his body to make an impact in the NBA - the same can be said of many of the Euro players coming over. I was being sarcastic regarding European training methods. I get that they have gyms, they just seldom send ripped athletes to the NBA.


European players are not allowed to take all the enhancements and "supplements" that NBA players take. They are on the banned lists of substances that they get tested for. If you test positive one time, you get a 1-2 year ban. Many of those banned substances are not even on the list of what the NBA tests for.

Also, teams in Europe require practice two times a day. So they have to spend a lot more time playing basketball and working on their games, than NBA teams do. If an NBA player wants to spend all day in the gym working out, then he can.

How is a European player going to do that when he is practicing with the team 8 hours a day? And the European players can't just load up on "supplements", like the NBA players can.

Besides that, the most ripped player in the entire NBA, came from playing and training in the European system. So it's also stereotyping.
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Re: Nemanja Bjelica

Postby Klomp on Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:44 pm

Raptor_Claw wrote:
Besides that, the most ripped player in the entire NBA, came from playing and training in the European system. So it's also stereotyping.

Dwight Howard?
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Re: Nemanja Bjelica

Postby Yes We Kahn on Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:06 pm

Klomp wrote:
Raptor_Claw wrote:
Besides that, the most ripped player in the entire NBA, came from playing and training in the European system. So it's also stereotyping.

Dwight Howard?

Haha I was thinking the same thing
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Re: Nemanja Bjelica

Postby Klomp on Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:14 pm

Yes We Kahn wrote:Haha I was thinking the same thing

I'm seriously struggling to figure out who he's referring to. I guess Pekovic, but I would consider him more thick than ripped.
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Re: Nemanja Bjelica

Postby Yes We Kahn on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:41 pm

Klomp wrote:
Yes We Kahn wrote:Haha I was thinking the same thing

I'm seriously struggling to figure out who he's referring to. I guess Pekovic, but I would consider him more thick than ripped.

Ibaka?
But he's no comparison to Dwight.
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Re: Nemanja Bjelica

Postby Dewey on Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:05 am

Fire Mchale wrote:
Raptor_Claw wrote:
Fire Mchale wrote:This is all well and good- do they have anyone there who knows how to use it?


Every team has certified trainers and required training. Not only that, they actually spend more money on developing training methods than NBA teams do. For instance, the NBA is usually 5 years behind in the training methods.

The big soccer clubs spend tons of money on the training, and the training advancements are then used in the basketball clubs.

So I'm not sure what you are trying to say here.


What I'm saying is that Bjelica badly needs to work on his body to make an impact in the NBA - the same can be said of many of the Euro players coming over. I was being sarcastic regarding European training methods. I get that they have gyms, they just seldom send ripped athletes to the NBA.


geez ... that's a pretty arrogant stance
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Re: Nemanja Bjelica

Postby Raptor_Claw on Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:54 am

Yes We Kahn wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Yes We Kahn wrote:Haha I was thinking the same thing

I'm seriously struggling to figure out who he's referring to. I guess Pekovic, but I would consider him more thick than ripped.

Ibaka?
But he's no comparison to Dwight.


Ibaka is more ripped than Howard is.
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Re: Nemanja Bjelica

Postby Veselyfan on Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:22 pm

Bjelica will workout with the Timberwovles.Kahn called him to come and meet Rick Adelman and have workouts and talk about his future. I think that he is already in USA...
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