Rubio Thread Seis (VI)

[guest81]

Maybe I'm in the minority but I wouldn't be surprised if a team like the Lakers or Knicks upped the price tag on Rubio. Hopefully something will be worked out sooner rather than later so that can be avoided, but his agent is Dan Fegan, so...

I don't see it. The Lakers and Knicks seem like the teams that want the really big fish. In all honestly, Rubio probably would be a top 5 PG 10-15 years ago, but today the position is just so deep. Every team outside of like 5-7 have a solid PG as it is.

The big fish is R.Rondo if we are talking about free agents PGs next season , Maybe Dragic if he doesnt take the player option, and than is Rubio ... I see the Lakers, Knicks, Rockets and special the Mavs. There is always a rumor involving Rubio/Dallas. So, if they can take Rubio at 12 M$ 13 M$ vs J.Lin 5M$ i believe they take Rubio for sure.

Another point is, Who was K.Lowry and Dragic before the last season start, good players, but nothing more than that.
They were amazing, and most of us see the potencial in Rubio, when it explodes that potencial, we have to be the team that holds a contract with Ricky. I hope that talent does not explode elsewhere.

I don't know about Rondo. The guy missed the whole year last year, and is going to miss a good chunk this year. Everybody says he's a superstar, but really hasn't had to play as one yet.

I think the thing with Lowry was that people always thought he was super talented, but was a huge dick that kept wearing out his welcome at places.

The teams you listed won't throw that kinda deal at Rubio as a RFA so I wouldn't worry. They don't wanna tie up that amount of cap space, when in fact, if push came to shove, Flip would absolutely match that deal rather then let him walk for nothing. Same thing happened with Bledsoe and Monroe

[FinnTheHuman]

12 mil is about right. Would give 13.5 like np.

[criteriado]

With his injury history, no way. And if he has another season without improving his shot, he wouldn't get the max in 2016.

The max in 2016 will be 23 million so I don't think he will get it. But in a 90 million cap, even with only little improvement he could get 13-14 mill.

I do think if he's a RFA this summer, he'll want a 2 yr contract with a player option after the first year and a lot of teams will want to give that type of contract when they're getting ready for the 2016 FA class and they don't want salary on their books.

I don't get this.

Instead of signing a max deal next summer, you think he would rather sign his qualifying offer and sign a deal starting at $5 million less than what he would make if he signed next summer? Makes no sense.

Not the QO, I'm saying that he could sign a 2 year 20 million deal with the Mavs with a player option on year two.

[Klomp]

Not the QO, I'm saying that he could sign a 2 year 20 million deal with the Mavs with a player option on year two.

We are already offering that and more.

[guest81]

The max in 2016 will be 23 million so I don't think he will get it. But in a 90 million cap, even with only little improvement he could get 13-14 mill.

I do think if he's a RFA this summer, he'll want a 2 yr contract with a player option after the first year and a lot of teams will want to give that type of contract when they're getting ready for the 2016 FA class and they don't want salary on their books.

I don't get this.

Instead of signing a max deal next summer, you think he would rather sign his qualifying offer and sign a deal starting at $5 million less than what he would make if he signed next summer? Makes no sense.

Not the QO, I'm saying that he could sign a 2 year 20 million deal with the Mavs with a player option on year two.

I'm almost positive that if you try to sign a RFA to an offer sheet, it has to be for at least 3 years.

[criteriado]

Not the QO, I'm saying that he could sign a 2 year 20 million deal with the Mavs with a player option on year two.

We are already offering that and more.

Well, yeah. But the point of doing that is going to the market when the salary cap skyrockets and every team on the league has a ton of money to spend.

[criteriado]

I don't get this.

Instead of signing a max deal next summer, you think he would rather sign his qualifying offer and sign a deal starting at $5 million less than what he would make if he signed next summer? Makes no sense.

Not the QO, I'm saying that he could sign a 2 year 20 million deal with the Mavs with a player option on year two.

I'm almost positive that if you try to sign a RFA to an offer sheet, it has to be for at least 3 years.

Didn't know that. Thanks for the heads up . Still, if he doesn't want to be underpaid, there's a 97 million cap projected for 2017

[guest81]

Not the QO, I'm saying that he could sign a 2 year 20 million deal with the Mavs with a player option on year two.

I'm almost positive that if you try to sign a RFA to an offer sheet, it has to be for at least 3 years.

Didn't know that. Thanks for the heads up . Still, if he doesn't want to be underpaid, there's a 97 million cap projected for 2017

Yea I think it keeps teams from signing Rubio to like a 1 year at some ungodly amount, then signing him to a better deal the year after. That might be risky idea for Rubio to wait until then because you know who else will be free agents? Like every star player

[criteriado]

I'm almost positive that if you try to sign a RFA to an offer sheet, it has to be for at least 3 years.

Didn't know that. Thanks for the heads up . Still, if he doesn't want to be underpaid, there's a 97 million cap projected for 2017

Yea I think it keeps teams from signing Rubio to like a 1 year at some ungodly amount, then signing him to a better deal the year after. That might be risky idea for Rubio to wait until then because you know who else will be free agents? Like every star player

Didn't Glen Taylor do this?

[Saltine]

I'm almost positive that if you try to sign a RFA to an offer sheet, it has to be for at least 3 years.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q44

The offer sheet must be for at least two seasons (not including option years). If the player's prior team also submitted a maximum qualifying offer, then the offer sheet must be for at least three seasons (not including option years).

[Saltine]

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... mberwolves

One of the newest (but also most veteran) Timberwolves players, Mo Williams, thinks Rubio has started to take those steps. “From the time I’ve been here, he’s taken that level,” Williams said on the first day of Wolves training camp. “Yesterday he was reading a book on the way up here and it was in a language I can’t read so I said, ‘What kind of book is that?’ And he said, ‘It’s a book on how to be more aggressive and lead and things like that.’ That lets you know it’s in his mental. He wants to lead and he’s in a great position now. It’s not, ‘Whose team is it?’ It’s his team.”

[Feilong]

Good bad ugly?

[FinnTheHuman]

Good bad ugly?

That J looks legit. Too bad he doesn't have it in his muscle memory yet. If he did, he'd shoot like that in-game as well. He returns to his old habits in-game, and it is very hard to change your shot mechanics at this age. But let's hope Rubio can pull it off.

IMO improving his jumper is not a must, but reworking his drives to a say Livingstonesque way could be key in him improving as a player.

[slinky]

It looks good, I have watched it for about 5 minutes now, and he has not missed one yet.

[guest81]

Good bad ugly?

Rubio's always has been a good practice shooter. It's when hes guarded and worn down after playing so hard is when he starts to run into trouble

[Ashwinz.]

The first one shown still has that hiccup/setup that he likes to use. The second one is more fluid, and is what he needs to practice 10,000 times a day.

[TMo519]

The first one is a step up jumper, so probably harder to replicate whatever he's working on, versus the second which is a pure spot up shot. But to me, the form is worlds better from using his legs more, and getting better follow through plus a quicker release. I'm optimistic that more concentrated work throughout the year could prove beneficial over time, but it will be an adjustment in the meantime, meaning probably a lot of rough nights as he adapts.

[urinesane]

That shot looks much better, better balance, some air under his feet, and isn't launching the ball anymore.

Will take time to translate to games, but I expect it to develop throughout the season.

[AQuintus]

Good bad ugly?

Wow. That form looks WAAAAY better than it used to, especially the spot up 3.

Edit:

compare that 3 point form to this: [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UlBItveEL0[/youtube]

[Klomp]

If you watch the Bennett and Pekovic shootaround videos from today, you can see Rubio shooting in the background.