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Re: Looking ahead to the offseason

Postby Klomp on Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:05 pm

Mayo definitely has one quality making him an offseason target...his beard
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Re: Looking ahead to the offseason

Postby lazfa199 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:13 pm

Turnover_21 wrote:After watching Mayo again I must say that this guy is a definition of average and his stats back this up. Rudy Gay on the contrary always kills us and looks very impressive though his season stats could better. But I like him a lot for our roster.
So Gay for Williams, Johnson, Barea going to Philly and Iguodala going to Memphis.


you take one game with limited minutes to call him average, thank god turnover_21 is not running this franchise...
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Re: Looking ahead to the offseason

Postby Devilzsidewalk on Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:05 am

average is a huge upgrade and a sensible signing to add to an above average center/PF/PG. If we can get an average SG and SF to round out the starting 5, I'll be delighted.
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Re: Looking ahead to the offseason

Postby touchedbyPek on Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:55 am

no, no, no. Rudy Gay was an option before his massive contract. Now theres no way we could afford him, Love and Rubio.
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Re: Looking ahead to the offseason

Postby Turnover_21 on Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:47 am

lazfa199 wrote:
Turnover_21 wrote:After watching Mayo again I must say that this guy is a definition of average and his stats back this up. Rudy Gay on the contrary always kills us and looks very impressive though his season stats could better. But I like him a lot for our roster.
So Gay for Williams, Johnson, Barea going to Philly and Iguodala going to Memphis.


you take one game with limited minutes to call him average, thank god turnover_21 is not running this franchise...


I said after watching Mayo again for the 4th time this season. In the 4 games vs wolves Mayo is averaging less than 9 ppg, he's shooting 10 out of 34 (atrocious) and 3 out 11 from distance. He's shooting just 40% over the last 2 seasons. I fail to see anything good about this player. Sorry Mayo fans.
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Re: Looking ahead to the offseason

Postby Turnover_21 on Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:51 am

Tirion wrote:
Turnover_21 wrote:After watching Mayo again I must say that this guy is a definition of average


Average wing production gets this team into playoffs this season.
Wolves wings right now are the definition of atrocious.


With healthy trio of Rubio, Love and Pek we would be in the playoffs anyway. And Mayo would never propel us to the playoffs with all the injuries we had this season.
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Re: Looking ahead to the offseason

Postby Worm Guts on Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:22 am

touchedbyPek wrote:no, no, no. Rudy Gay was an option before his massive contract. Now theres no way we could afford him, Love and Rubio.


Rubio is a long way from getting paid. Gay's contract actually expires before Rubio would be due an extension.
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Re: Looking ahead to the offseason

Postby Turnover_21 on Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:08 am

Worm Guts wrote:
touchedbyPek wrote:no, no, no. Rudy Gay was an option before his massive contract. Now theres no way we could afford him, Love and Rubio.


Rubio is a long way from getting paid. Gay's contract actually expires before Rubio would be due an extension.


But, but, but Gay is paid so much that it doesn't matter to people who are too lazy to spent 3 minutes to crunch the salary numbers and realize that we can easily afford him. But I guess we still need salary cap to overpay someone like Mayo or Batum :roll:
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Re: Looking ahead to the offseason

Postby Stebo_SSK on Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:11 am

How would the T'wolves attain Rudy Gay? By trading who?
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Re: Looking ahead to the offseason

Postby C.lupus on Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:35 am

Stebo_SSK wrote:How would the T'wolves attain Rudy Gay? By trading who?


Turnover_21 wrote:After watching Mayo again I must say that this guy is a definition of average and his stats back this up. Rudy Gay on the contrary always kills us and looks very impressive though his season stats could better. But I like him a lot for our roster.
So Gay for Williams, Johnson, Barea going to Philly and Iguodala going to Memphis.


If I'm reading this right it is:

To Wolves (from MEM): Gay
To Philly (from MIN): Williams, Johnson, Barea
To Memphis (from PHI): Iguadala

I'd do that deal in a heartbeat. I don't know if Memphis bites, though.
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Re: Looking ahead to the offseason

Postby Turnover_21 on Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:52 am

Stebo_SSK wrote:How would the T'wolves attain Rudy Gay? By trading who?


Memphis may make Gay available due to their salary situation. They have 3 max salary type contracts(Gay, Gaso, Z-Bo) plus Conley on a sizable contract. They have 62 mil committed already for next season plus guys like Mayo, Arthur and Speights, Haddadi looking for new contracts. They are easily a lux tax team if the want good roster depth.

I think a multiple team trade would be needed to do something.
For instance:

Wolves get Gay
Memphis get Thornton, Barea, King's draft pick(5-6 so far)
Kings get Williams, Johnson.

Memphis gets a scorer in Thornton who can replace Gay's points and allows them to let Mayo walk , get a good backup PG in Barea and get a good pick (Barnes?). All three combined would make less money that Gay next season.
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Re: Looking ahead to the offseason

Postby Krapinsky on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:32 am

Gay makes a lot of money and is not much of an improvement over Batum. I'd rather first attempt to go the route where we can get Batum for $ only and then still have Williams to deal.
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Re: Looking ahead to the offseason

Postby Turnover_21 on Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:55 pm

You're not getting Batum at reasonable price, blazers match all day. You're only getting a grossly overpaid Batum. I'd rather have an overpaid Gay because he's the better player.
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Re: Looking ahead to the offseason

Postby Krapinsky on Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:17 pm

Monta Ellis might be a realistic get in the offseason. I can't imagine the Bucks going forward with a Jennings-Monta back court.

If we were able to get rid of Barea in the process, an Ellis trade could make some sense.
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Re: Looking ahead to the offseason

Postby touchedbyPek on Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:33 pm

Yeah but do you really want to pay 30 million, to two players, and have cheap players everywhere else? We aren't the Miami Heat, Boston Celtics we can't just sign good players for bargains. And no we dont have to pay rubio right away, but hell i have no problem giving him his payday a year or two earlier. And we're gonna have to pay Pek soon too.
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