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Post#16 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:15 pm by teamwillow

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Post#17 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:19 pm by Shem

Efernand wrote:Depends on what role the coaching staff gives him. I'm a Jazz fan and AK has been my favorite player for a long time. It was very painful to watch what happened to him when Utah decided to sign Boozer and slid AK over to the 3 when he had been an All-Star at the 4 for them. As the years went by his role in the Jazz offense was to stand around on the 3 point line even though he was not a perimeter player. He's at his best when you cut him loose on a fast paced system. He has great instincts and court vision. He has an unorthodox post game but it worked for him and when he posts up he draws fouls at a high rate.

He'll probably be a 3 again with Love starting at the 4 and with Derrick Williams on the roster as well.
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Post#18 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:26 pm by Tirion

Shem wrote:
Efernand wrote:Depends on what role the coaching staff gives him. I'm a Jazz fan and AK has been my favorite player for a long time. It was very painful to watch what happened to him when Utah decided to sign Boozer and slid AK over to the 3 when he had been an All-Star at the 4 for them. As the years went by his role in the Jazz offense was to stand around on the 3 point line even though he was not a perimeter player. He's at his best when you cut him loose on a fast paced system. He has great instincts and court vision. He has an unorthodox post game but it worked for him and when he posts up he draws fouls at a high rate.

He'll probably be a 3 again with Love starting at the 4 and with Derrick Williams on the roster as well.


Different systems. Sloan runs his offense through PG-PF connection. Everybody else is an afterthought on offense. AK can defend at the 3 and has all the skills needed to be an above-average SF. His decline in Utah wasn't about him moving positions, it was about him not being involved on offense anymore, while told to cover for Boozer's lazy ass on defense.
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Post#19 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:27 pm by Esohny

Shem wrote:
Efernand wrote:Depends on what role the coaching staff gives him. I'm a Jazz fan and AK has been my favorite player for a long time. It was very painful to watch what happened to him when Utah decided to sign Boozer and slid AK over to the 3 when he had been an All-Star at the 4 for them. As the years went by his role in the Jazz offense was to stand around on the 3 point line even though he was not a perimeter player. He's at his best when you cut him loose on a fast paced system. He has great instincts and court vision. He has an unorthodox post game but it worked for him and when he posts up he draws fouls at a high rate.

He'll probably be a 3 again with Love starting at the 4 and with Derrick Williams on the roster as well.


Yep, more time at the 3 for sure. Although I would expect to see some small ball lineups with Love at the 5, AK47 at the 4.
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Post#20 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:05 pm by Love42Rubio9

20-25 minutes, i see AK averaging somewhere around 11.3ppg/6.2rpg/2.9apg/1.3spg/1.3bpg
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Post#21 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:10 pm by Saltine

14 points, 8 rebounds, 9 assists, 6 steals, 7 blocks. ;)
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Post#22 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:01 am by Breakdown777

The only stats I expect to be a direct result of AK being in the game are opposing SF putting up horrible shooting percentages, and Timberwolf Wins. A block or two would be nice as well.
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Post#23 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:51 am by cjs55

AK isn't a great one on one defender. He's isn't even a great help defender anymore. That said, he's still a fantastic, versatile team defender. He's just not going to blow you away with what he does. He will make your team better on that end.

On offense, he's a point forward at his best. He's a great passer. Great court vision. Terrible at posting up. Don't play him inside, ever. But he understands sets, is very smart, and as long as he's playing with players who get him he will be great.

Congrats Wolves, you've picked up my third favorite player ever. I was following ever since you picked up Rubio (nearest thing to Stockton I've ever seen in the PnR), but now it's a no brainer.
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Post#24 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:55 am by aaa

Narf wrote:I think he'll actually get more steals than blocks, and with our depth play just under 30 minutes per game. We're going to run the other team ragged with fresh legs.

28 minutes, 11.9 points, 5.4 rebounds, 3.0 assists, 1.2 blocks, 1.4 steals, .570 TS%

The A in AK stands for Anarchy, he's going to be all over the place on offense and defense.


Sign me up for that! I would be ecstatic with that kind of production. Not many guys can do what AK does.
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Post#25 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:59 am by aaa

Esohny wrote:
Yep, more time at the 3 for sure. Although I would expect to see some small ball lineups with Love at the 5, AK47 at the 4.


I'm most excited to see the brief periods where that is the post configuration. I think that's when he'll be most productive.
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Post#26 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:16 am by cjs55

AK is only effective 4 in foreign ball or GSW style run and gun. Bad half-court player at 4 since you can't post him up, and he's not a great stretch 4 either. You have to buy into the point-forward/small ball role for that to work.
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Post#27 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:49 am by Calinks

9.8 PPG 4 RPG 2 APG 1.2 SPG 0.8 BPG

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Post#28 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:46 am by SaintS

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Post#29 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:53 am by cjs55

Calinks wrote:9.8 PPG 4 RPG 2 APG 1.2 SPG 0.8 BPG

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For sure, and he will definitely get more than 2 APG. He will bring you guys to another level anong with Rubio and Love. Will be sick to watch. Will be streaming minnesota games over Jazz games unless things get exciting over there. Your team is awesome.
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Post#30 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:00 am by Saltine

They should be very fun to watch, hopefully they'll win more than they lose as well. :)
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Post#31 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:50 am by guille_4

13p / 5.5r / 3ass / 1.25bl / 1.2 steals in 28 minutes with good efficiency.
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Post#32 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:25 am by djgylend

hustle and effort that will hopefully spread to others on the court, veteran leadership on a young international squad in the closing moments, some acrobatic finishes and rejections and around 10-12 point, 5-6 boards, 5+ assists (adelman likes using his bigs out of the high post while the guard go backdoor i suspect AK will pick up alot of dimes like this), and maybe 1.5 each thefts/blocks and probably another 3-4 hustle plays that create turnovers, also 50/50 balls, etc. that's his forte and where he'll really help.
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Post#33 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:33 am by djgylend

cjs55 wrote:
For sure, and he will definitely get more than 2 APG. He will bring you guys to another level anong with Rubio and Love. Will be sick to watch.


cjs55 wrote:On offense, he's a point forward at his best. He's a great passer. Great court vision.


that's the point i was trying to make you said it first

i can forsee a vlade divac type role here for AK in the wolves offense, and if im not mistake vlade used to post up 5+ assists per game on that wildly entertaining, unselfish and deep Kings squad
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Post#34 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:44 am by Dewey

Expectations? = consistency, reliability
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Post#35 Re: Statistical Expectations for AK?
Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:56 am by kmgarnett21

10 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 2.5 apg, 1.5 spg, 1.2 bpg
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