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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#361 » by cpfsf » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:34 am

Tirion wrote:Right now our guard rotation consists of Rubio, Barea, Ridnour and Shved.

One of them is a midget and the other three are in the top-10 of the weakest players in the NBA.

Wolves need some physicality in their backcourt stat.

Also please lift some weights.


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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#362 » by andyhop » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:05 am

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I wish swearing wasn't filtered. Oladipo can't shoot. Yet he hits 48% of 3s this year and 67.6% of 2s, leads the Big 10 and is 4th in the country in TS%, 2nd in the country in eFG% (as a guard nevertheless). I'm sorry but you don't hit 24 out of 50 threes in games in you "can't shoot."


Do you know how big variance can be for 3 pt shooting over such small samples?

Here's OJ Mayo's 3 pt shooting in 50(ish) shot blocks this season.

0-50 64%
50-102 42%
103-152 38%
153-204 30%
205-254 36%

His 2pt% doesn't make him a shooter,he is a finisher who will be most effective when given space to work in something he is unlikely to have playing with Rubio and AK47.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#363 » by [RCG] » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:27 am

You're right. We have absolutely no space. Every team packs the paint against us and that is our problem.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#364 » by Krapinsky » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:37 pm

I like how Oladipo is agressive and keeps attacking. I think Adelman would like him. He's not a pure shooter, and I get that is what people want, but he's certainly not a bad shooter. For our needs, Mclemore might be the better fit, but Oladipo wouldn't be a bad get either. I think the center prospects are superior in this draft class though, and we should be looking at those guys, and figure out how to get a wing some other way, be it trading Williams, or free agency.
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Post#365 » by [RCG] » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:54 pm

I love how Chad Ford's lottery machine keeps giving us Anthony Bennett. As if we don't already have Kevin Love and Derrick Williams at PF :roll:
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#366 » by Worm Guts » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:56 pm

Krapinsky wrote:I like how Oladipo is agressive and keeps attacking. I think Adelman would like him. He's not a pure shooter, and I get that is what people want, but he's certainly not a bad shooter. For our needs, Mclemore might be the better fit, but Oladipo wouldn't be a bad get either. I think the center prospects are superior in this draft class though, and we should be looking at those guys, and figure out how to get a wing some other way, be it trading Williams, or free agency.


I'd definitely take Noel, but I'd probably look for a wing over Zeller or Len.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#367 » by Krapinsky » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:09 pm

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Krapinsky wrote:I like how Oladipo is agressive and keeps attacking. I think Adelman would like him. He's not a pure shooter, and I get that is what people want, but he's certainly not a bad shooter. For our needs, Mclemore might be the better fit, but Oladipo wouldn't be a bad get either. I think the center prospects are superior in this draft class though, and we should be looking at those guys, and figure out how to get a wing some other way, be it trading Williams, or free agency.


I'd definitely take Noel, but I'd probably look for a wing over Zeller or Len.


I'm not a big Zeller fan. Len I haven't seen play, but he sounds athletic enough. I was mainly talking about Noel, Cauley-Stein, and Austin. I also like the Gonzaga dude a lot.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#368 » by Klomp » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:09 pm

[RCG] wrote:I love how Chad Ford's lottery machine keeps giving us Anthony Bennett. As if we don't already have Kevin Love and Derrick Williams at PF :roll:

We won the lottery the second time I ran it, McLemore was the pick.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#369 » by Krapinsky » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:14 pm

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[RCG] wrote:I love how Chad Ford's lottery machine keeps giving us Anthony Bennett. As if we don't already have Kevin Love and Derrick Williams at PF :roll:

We won the lottery the second time I ran it, McLemore was the pick.


I'm sure in Ford's mind Kevin Love wants out of MN badly, and MN looks for his replacement.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#370 » by Worm Guts » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:16 pm

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Krapinsky wrote:I like how Oladipo is agressive and keeps attacking. I think Adelman would like him. He's not a pure shooter, and I get that is what people want, but he's certainly not a bad shooter. For our needs, Mclemore might be the better fit, but Oladipo wouldn't be a bad get either. I think the center prospects are superior in this draft class though, and we should be looking at those guys, and figure out how to get a wing some other way, be it trading Williams, or free agency.


I'd definitely take Noel, but I'd probably look for a wing over Zeller or Len.


I'm not a big Zeller fan. Len I haven't seen play, but he sounds athletic enough. I was mainly talking about Noel, Cauley-Stein, and Austin. I also like the Gonzaga dude a lot.


Don't like Austin, he's too perimeter oriented. He doesn't shoot a high percentage from anywhere and doesn't seem very physical.

I'm undecided on Cauley-Stein.
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Post#371 » by Klomp » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:19 pm

Austin would fit next to both Love and Pek though. That intrigues me.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#372 » by The J Rocka » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:21 pm

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Krapinsky wrote:I like how Oladipo is agressive and keeps attacking. I think Adelman would like him. He's not a pure shooter, and I get that is what people want, but he's certainly not a bad shooter. For our needs, Mclemore might be the better fit, but Oladipo wouldn't be a bad get either. I think the center prospects are superior in this draft class though, and we should be looking at those guys, and figure out how to get a wing some other way, be it trading Williams, or free agency.


I'd definitely take Noel, but I'd probably look for a wing over Zeller or Len.

Noel & WCS are the only bigs I would take. Otherwise, McLemore, Oladipo, Porter, Smart, and Shabazz should all be considered.
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Post#373 » by [RCG] » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:38 pm

I think Austin becomes the 3/4/5 version of Derrick Williams is at the 3/4.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#374 » by Krapinsky » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:55 pm

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I'd definitely take Noel, but I'd probably look for a wing over Zeller or Len.


I'm not a big Zeller fan. Len I haven't seen play, but he sounds athletic enough. I was mainly talking about Noel, Cauley-Stein, and Austin. I also like the Gonzaga dude a lot.


Don't like Austin, he's too perimeter oriented. He doesn't shoot a high percentage from anywhere and doesn't seem very physical.

I'm undecided on Cauley-Stein.


He's raw sure, but he's an athletic 7'1 with a 7'4" wingspan and averages almost 14 and 9 as a freshman. He needs to get stronger to be more effective inside and one would think that would come eventually.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#375 » by Krapinsky » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:56 pm

[RCG] wrote:I think Austin becomes the 3/4/5 version of Derrick Williams is at the 3/4.


Austin is going to guard 3's?
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Post#376 » by Worm Guts » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:00 pm

I'm just scared that he shoots more 3 pointers than FT's and he's not really good at either. He's young so he could change, but I'd rather take a wing than take that risk.
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Post#377 » by The J Rocka » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:06 pm

As for WCS, he could even add another inch in the next couple years since he's only 19 years old going on 20 in August.

Even if he stays at 7/7'1, adding some bulk is going to do wonders. He already has the size, athleticism, defensive tools, and a good BBIQ. Just needs to polish his offensive skills (which will come) and add some bulk.
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Post#378 » by Krapinsky » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:09 pm

Worm Guts wrote:I'm just scared that he shoots more 3 pointers than FT's and he's not really good at either. He's young so he could change, but I'd rather take a wing than take that risk.


Aside from maybe Mclemore, the wings have risks too and none seem like a sure fire all star. Shabazz, and Oladipo seem like solid starters to me, but without the upside to become stars.
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Post#379 » by [RCG] » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:10 pm

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[RCG] wrote:I think Austin becomes the 3/4/5 version of Derrick Williams is at the 3/4.


Austin is going to guard 3's?


No but he plays like a wing on offense.
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Post#380 » by Krapinsky » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:36 pm

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[RCG] wrote:I think Austin becomes the 3/4/5 version of Derrick Williams is at the 3/4.


Austin is going to guard 3's?


No but he plays like a wing on offense.


I can't really fathom that either. Stretch 4, sure.
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