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2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59)

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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#286 » by Klomp » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:05 pm

The thing that scares me about Shabazz is that he plays too much hero ball, and isn't always a willing passer. That won't fly with Rick.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#287 » by Devilzsidewalk » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:32 pm

yea, but its better than being too passive. Plus that UCLA connection might win some small points for keeping both guys happy in MN
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#288 » by [RCG] » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:18 pm

I'd throw McCollum in there as well. He's a guy we could potential trade back a couple of spots for if we see a lot of those guys taken already. He shoots lights out and has since he was a freshman. Capable ball-handler too.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#289 » by jfg » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:34 pm

I just want every player who's scouting report says "Motor and athleticism makes up for limited skill set" crossed off the Wolves big board right now. 1st one to cross off is Oladipo.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#290 » by Klomp » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:57 pm

jfg wrote:I just want every player who's scouting report says "Motor and athleticism makes up for limited skill set" crossed off the Wolves big board right now. 1st one to cross off is Oladipo.

So I take it you want to trade Ricky then? Because other than the passing, that's EXACTLY the type of player Oladipo is.

(No, I'm not saying Oladipo is as good as Rubio, I'm comparing their skillsets)
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#291 » by moss_is_1 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:08 am

Ricky is extremely skilled though.
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Post#292 » by moss_is_1 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:09 am

I think McLemore is going to drop a little bit. He's really passive in games, I know that I wouldn't take him unless I had a player on my team that is the #1 guy. Unless he improves his handle(or he has one and we don't see it at KU), then he's not going to be a star.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#293 » by Klomp » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:13 am

moss_is_1 wrote:I think McLemore is going to drop a little bit. He's really passive in games, I know that I wouldn't take him unless I had a player on my team that is the #1 guy. Unless he improves his handle(or he has one and we don't see it at KU), then he's not going to be a star.

He's a shooter. He's not some iso scorer that a lot of people seem to think. I'd take Oladipo over him.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#294 » by NikolaPekovic » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:36 am

Klomp wrote:The thing that scares me about Shabazz is that he plays too much hero ball, and isn't always a willing passer. That won't fly with Rick.


We kind of need someone like that. Someone who we can give the ball to in bad situations and let them create.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#295 » by NikolaPekovic » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:39 am

Klomp wrote:
moss_is_1 wrote:I think McLemore is going to drop a little bit. He's really passive in games, I know that I wouldn't take him unless I had a player on my team that is the #1 guy. Unless he improves his handle(or he has one and we don't see it at KU), then he's not going to be a star.

He's a shooter. He's not some iso scorer that a lot of people seem to think. I'd take Oladipo over him.


Mcelmore is alot more skilled tho. And he is almost as athletic as oladipo.

Mcelmore definitely fits our team composition alot more than Oladipo.


I would be very happy with Mcelmore, Shabazz, Noel, Austin, or Oladipo.
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Post#296 » by Devilzsidewalk » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:46 am

McLemore is okay, but Oladipo's motor and athleticism makes up for his limited skill set, so I think we can all agree that's the way to go
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Post#297 » by jfg » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:57 am

Devilzsidewalk wrote:McLemore is okay, but Oladipo's motor and athleticism makes up for his limited skill set, so I think we can all agree that's the way to go


:lol:

The comparison to Rubio was a little crazy because Ricky's skills are what got him noticed and what makes him a star. The motor is complimentary to the skills. I'm trying to think of one player who had that scouting report out of college and became a star in the NBA. I can't, probably because the Wolves keep drafting them. NBA stars are skilled, role players are athletes with heart. I guess you could say superstars are both.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#298 » by NikolaPekovic » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:59 am

Devilzsidewalk wrote:McLemore is okay, but Oladipo's motor and athleticism makes up for his limited skill set, so I think we can all agree that's the way to go


Motor cant make 3 points for us :/
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#299 » by AQuintus » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:08 am

Klomp wrote:He's a shooter. He's not some iso scorer that a lot of people seem to think. I'd take Oladipo over him.


:-?

Why? A shooter is the team's biggest need, by far.
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Post#300 » by shangrila » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:16 am

The other thing about Oladipo...he can't drive left, at all. Which is a pretty significant weakness IMO.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#301 » by The J Rocka » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:38 am

Devilzsidewalk wrote:McLemore is okay, but Oladipo's motor and athleticism makes up for his limited skill set, so I think we can all agree that's the way to go

The way to go is to get a guy that can make shots. McLemore does it from everywhere.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#302 » by Klomp » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:20 am

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Devilzsidewalk wrote:McLemore is okay, but Oladipo's motor and athleticism makes up for his limited skill set, so I think we can all agree that's the way to go

The way to go is to get a guy that can make shots. McLemore does it from everywhere.

We scored 111 points tonight. We have guys who can make shots.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#303 » by karch34 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:43 am

But we don't score 111 every night and they don't make shots consistently. I really wouldn't have an issue with any of Muhammed, McLemore, Smart, or Oladipo with our pick.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#304 » by The J Rocka » Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:41 am

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Devilzsidewalk wrote:McLemore is okay, but Oladipo's motor and athleticism makes up for his limited skill set, so I think we can all agree that's the way to go

The way to go is to get a guy that can make shots. McLemore does it from everywhere.

We scored 111 points tonight. We have guys who can make shots.

Not consistently we don't. Our outside shooting has been pretty poor. Budinger & Love are only going to lift us to be average at best. We're obviously going to be better with McLemore's offensive game or Oladipo's defensive game but I'm taking the shooter to put next to Rubio & AK. He doesn't need to be a no. 1 option either because chances are he's going to be your 2nd/3rd best player. I don't think he's ever going to be a superstar, face of the franchise player (hence the overrated draft) but that's no problem having Love & Rubio here.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#305 » by Tirion » Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:51 am

The J Rocka wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:McLemore is okay, but Oladipo's motor and athleticism makes up for his limited skill set, so I think we can all agree that's the way to go

The way to go is to get a guy that can make shots. McLemore does it from everywhere.


You can find shooters elsewhere. McLemore is just too damn passive. He's Jeremy Lamb 2.0, which is nice, but why settle for that, when you can do better? If you're drafting in the top 10, you need to pick the most talented guy, providing you can identify him.

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