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Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:35 pm
by younggunsmn
cojayar wrote:NikolaPekovic wrote:young manu ginobli
Do not exaggerate. 3 games, 18.3 MPG, 6.0 PPG, 29% FG, 27% 3P, 2.3 APG, 2.3 REB.
He is better and defend better than all you expected (as usual with all European players) but still has to demonstrate more things.
What is clear is that he has the experience and does not hesitate to shot in the clutch time, but sometimes makes your team lose. And still it is not a pure PG but a combo guard or even a SG.
The tape on him is much, much better than his stats thus far. And you can't quantify his defense with numbers.
He's been excellent running and defending the pick and roll, finding open shooters, and finishing around the basket. I think his shooting #'s will improve with more minutes.
So far he has only been running the pick and roll. I think Adelman wants him to be able to run more of his offense before he fully unleashes him and leaves him out there as the only PG.
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:09 am
by Basti
theGreatRC wrote:Basti wrote:I couldn't watch the Brooklyn game unfortunately but I hope he spent lots of time together with AK47. Their on court chemistry must be quite good.
I have the link to the full game in HD..It's a link from a guy who uploads full NBA games. Let me know if you want it.
Neat. Let's see if my wifi can handle HD streams/downloads
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:12 am
by theGreatRC
Reheated pie still tastes great! 
Thanks, Basti
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:15 pm
by Klomp
Timberwolves PR @Twolves_PR
#Twolves Alexey Shved ranks 2nd among NBA rookies in assists (4.0 apg), 11th in scoring (7.2 ppg) and 13th in rebounds (3.2 rpg).
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:37 pm
by Jukeness
2nd with 4 assists seems weak. That number should only get higher.
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:40 pm
by tjumper78
theGreatRC wrote:Basti wrote:I have the link to the full game in HD..It's a link from a guy who uploads full NBA games. Let me know if you want it.
random request from a knick fan. may i get the link to that site as well?
thank you, sir.
Check your messages, good Sir.
Basti
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:02 am
by guille_4
With a 6.4'5 wingspan he'll never be a good defender, but he has definitely been better than expected. Despite his stats sheet, he's had a considerable impact on the team. Hope he keeps improving, I'm barely bothered about his shooting percentages. Guy can shoot.
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:19 am
by m2002brian
theGreatRC wrote:Basti wrote:I couldn't watch the Brooklyn game unfortunately but I hope he spent lots of time together with AK47. Their on court chemistry must be quite good.
I have the link to the full game in HD..It's a link from a guy who uploads full NBA games. Let me know if you want it.
I want it
Check your messages for pie recipes
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:43 pm
by kiriux
Basti, could you send me that link too? Thank you.
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:52 pm
by _AIJ_
Can i get some of that pie recipe too Basti?
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:19 pm
by thinktank
I'll take the link to the Brooklyn game too, please. I was in Spain and missed it.
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:57 pm
by Tekkenlaw
Shved thread needs a bump because this kid is ballin' on every body.
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:40 pm
by Adenusi
Tekkenlaw wrote:Shved thread needs a bump because this kid is ballin' on every body.
Safe to say he's a young Manu minus the bitch@ssness?
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:52 pm
by Tekkenlaw
I don't think he's quite as strong as rookie Manu was, but he still seems to be able to finish inside just fine despite that because he's probably a better ball handler. I want to see a full season play out to see if his shooting stroke comes around but watching highlights of rookie Manu I don't think I saw anything Shved isn't also capable of or better at, they look like similar players it's a good comparison.
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:03 am
by TwInS1095
Love watching Shved play. Him + Rubio in the backcourt will be fun to watch in the upcoming years. I'm a believer that we've found a pretty good one. Either as a starter or a 6th man ala Manu.
But, Rubio/Shved ballhandling/passing/length would be fun to watch and help us immensely on the defensive front.
EDIT-Watched so Manu rookie highlights. Looks like he was better without the ball than Shved. Also, it looks like he had a slightly better shot/was a slightly better finisher around the rim. Although, Alexey might be a better passer/ballhandler. It's really too early to tell on the shot. He's been streaky.
Either way I'm excited. He's a player.
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:12 am
by Basti
Can't remember how Manu was a rookie but I'm sure he already was the great finisher around the rim back then. Not to mention the handle of his.
I'd say Alexey is Manu-lite talent-wise. He's got quite the way to go.
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:46 am
by Klomp
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6o0UcFOeHc[/youtube]
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:21 pm
by NewWolvesOrder
Am I the only one who is skeptical about Rubio-Shved backcourt ? Both are unselfish players and can coexist on the floor but Shved may not be as effective on the court with Rubio as he maybe with a player like Ridnour. Alexey is at his best when he has the ball in his hands a lot and looks passive when is forced to play off the ball.
I think Shved looked bad when he played with Barea who tends to dominate the ball. And I'm not surprised that he had his best career game when he was given a lot minutes next to Ridnour who just brings the ball up the court then passes it to Shved and lets him create.
Rubio is not nearly ball dominant as Barea. But I think that him and Shved should be separated as much as possible. Shved coming off the bench to play with Ridnour, Barea probably traded and preferably for a good shooting SG who can start next to Rubio, may be someone like Courtney Lee or Redick or Danny Green, basically someone on a cheapish contract.
So the backcourt looks like this
Rubio(34)/Ridnour(14)
shooter(20)/Shved(28)
Play Shved like Ginobili and hopefully it will keep his next contract down.
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:24 pm
by moss_is_1
Turnover_21 wrote:Am I the only one who is skeptical about Rubio-Shved backcourt ? Both are unselfish players and can coexist on the floor but Shved may not be as effective on the court with Rubio as he maybe with a player like Ridnour. Alexey is at his best when he has the ball in his hands a lot and looks passive when is forced to play off the ball.
I think Shved looked bad when he played with Barea who tends to dominate the ball. And I'm not surprised that he had his best career game when he was given a lot minutes next to Ridnour who just brings the ball up the court then passes it to Shved and lets him create.
Rubio is not nearly ball dominant as Barea. But I think that him and Shved should be separated as much as possible. Shved coming off the bench to play with Ridnour, Barea probably traded and preferably for a good shooting SG who can start next to Rubio, may be someone like Courtney Lee or Redick or Danny Green, basically someone on a cheapish contract.
So the backcourt looks like this
Rubio(34)/Ridnour(14)
shooter(20)/Shved(28)
Play Shved like Ginobili and hopefully it will keep his next contract down.
I would agree with that. Shved ideally could play the 6th man role for us, but he can learn to play with Rubio/Love eventually...He's just doing what he's comfortable with right now. He still hasn't gotten his jump to fall like he would want, Rubio should be able to help there. He gives us someone who we can ISO at the end of the clock hopefully as well.
Re: Alexey Shved
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:53 pm
by Klomp
Turnover_21 wrote:Am I the only one who is skeptical about Rubio-Shved backcourt ? Both are unselfish players and can coexist on the floor but Shved may not be as effective on the court with Rubio as he maybe with a player like Ridnour. Alexey is at his best when he has the ball in his hands a lot and looks passive when is forced to play off the ball.
I think Shved looked bad when he played with Barea who tends to dominate the ball. And I'm not surprised that he had his best career game when he was given a lot minutes next to Ridnour who just brings the ball up the court then passes it to Shved and lets him create.
Rubio is not nearly ball dominant as Barea. But I think that him and Shved should be separated as much as possible. Shved coming off the bench to play with Ridnour, Barea probably traded and preferably for a good shooting SG who can start next to Rubio, may be someone like Courtney Lee or Redick or Danny Green, basically someone on a cheapish contract.
So the backcourt looks like this
Rubio(34)/Ridnour(14)
shooter(20)/Shved(28)
Play Shved like Ginobili and hopefully it will keep his next contract down.
If Rick Adelman wasn't our coach, I might agree with you.