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Re: Rumors for a Pau trade in spanish newspaper 

Post#391 » by FinnTheHuman » Sun Dec 9, 2012 2:30 pm

shrink wrote:Pau Gasol became a pro at 16. Between FC Barcelona, Memphis, LAL, 13 seasons in the NBA, the play-offs, and the Spanish National Team, Pau Gasol has about 40,000 minutes of basketball on his odometer - and at a position that takes plenty of punishment.

I don't believe that the knee tendonitis excludes old age from being another reason for his giant decline this year.


FC stands for football club Barcelona. Oh you Americans. :lol: :lol:

@topic I'd rather take Gortat, but only if we get a SG in that deal. If Gasol meant Gasol from 5 years ago, I'd take him feeling like we stole something. At this point, I would just forget about it, knees are knees, it would be too big a risk.
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Re: Rumors for a Pau trade in spanish newspaper 

Post#392 » by C.lupus » Sun Dec 9, 2012 2:31 pm

Pekovic this year has a better DRtg and higher defensive win shares than Gortat. Just saying.
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Re: Rumors for a Pau trade in spanish newspaper 

Post#393 » by Worm Guts » Sun Dec 9, 2012 2:41 pm

There's no way I give up assets just so I can swap Pekovic for Gortat. If for some reason they offer a straight trade, I guess, but I think we're much better off just focusing on a SG.
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Re: Rumors for a Pau trade in spanish newspaper 

Post#394 » by sisibilio » Sun Dec 9, 2012 3:40 pm

shrink wrote:Pau Gasol became a pro at 16.

Not that it matters much but that's not true. He only started having significant minutes with Barcelona's first team when he was 19.
If you want to try to measure the elements of basketball that are supposedly unmeasurable, spend a game just watching Marc Gasol.
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Post#395 » by sisibilio » Sun Dec 9, 2012 3:45 pm

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shrink wrote:Pau Gasol became a pro at 16. Between FC Barcelona, Memphis, LAL, 13 seasons in the NBA, the play-offs, and the Spanish National Team, Pau Gasol has about 40,000 minutes of basketball on his odometer - and at a position that takes plenty of punishment.

I don't believe that the knee tendonitis excludes old age from being another reason for his giant decline this year.


FC stands for football club Barcelona. Oh you Americans. :lol: :lol:

The official name of the basketball team (and any other section of the club) is also FC Barcelona.
http://www.acb.com/club.php?id=BAR&cod_ ... edicion=57
Regal is the sponsor.
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Re: Rumors for a Pau trade in spanish newspaper 

Post#396 » by guille_4 » Sun Dec 9, 2012 4:23 pm

sisibilio wrote:
FinnTheHuman wrote:
shrink wrote:Pau Gasol became a pro at 16. Between FC Barcelona, Memphis, LAL, 13 seasons in the NBA, the play-offs, and the Spanish National Team, Pau Gasol has about 40,000 minutes of basketball on his odometer - and at a position that takes plenty of punishment.

I don't believe that the knee tendonitis excludes old age from being another reason for his giant decline this year.


FC stands for football club Barcelona. Oh you Americans. :lol: :lol:

The official name of the basketball team (and any other section of the club) is also FC Barcelona.
http://www.acb.com/club.php?id=BAR&cod_ ... edicion=57
Regal is the sponsor.


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Re: Rumors for a Pau trade in spanish newspaper 

Post#397 » by FinnTheHuman » Sun Dec 9, 2012 7:16 pm

Hahahah I failed so hard. xD I was searching the net for what FC stands for, and there was no answer. It seems that they just took it from the football club name, no logic included. Really strange.
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Re: Rumors for a Pau trade in spanish newspaper 

Post#398 » by champalift » Sun Dec 9, 2012 8:15 pm

FinnTheHuman wrote:Hahahah I failed so hard. xD I was searching the net for what FC stands for, and there was no answer. It seems that they just took it from the football club name, no logic included. Really strange.


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Post#399 » by Cashin out » Sun Dec 9, 2012 8:20 pm

Hey guys just wanted to update you on the Pau rumor,according to our GM he wants to give Pau 2 weeks to see how he plays with Nash,they told him if he doesn't fit in they will look to trade him.So I don't really see anything happening anytime soon because I expect Pau to accept the challenge and play well because he loves LA.
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Post#400 » by shrink » Sun Dec 9, 2012 9:29 pm

champalift wrote:
FinnTheHuman wrote:Hahahah I failed so hard. xD I was searching the net for what FC stands for, and there was no answer. It seems that they just took it from the football club name, no logic included. Really strange.


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Re: Rumors for a Pau trade in spanish newspaper 

Post#401 » by LordBaldric » Sun Dec 9, 2012 9:35 pm

FinnTheHuman wrote:
shrink wrote:Pau Gasol became a pro at 16. Between FC Barcelona, Memphis, LAL, 13 seasons in the NBA, the play-offs, and the Spanish National Team, Pau Gasol has about 40,000 minutes of basketball on his odometer - and at a position that takes plenty of punishment.

I don't believe that the knee tendonitis excludes old age from being another reason for his giant decline this year.


FC stands for football club Barcelona. Oh you Americans. :lol: :lol:

@topic I'd rather take Gortat, but only if we get a SG in that deal. If Gasol meant Gasol from 5 years ago, I'd take him feeling like we stole something. At this point, I would just forget about it, knees are knees, it would be too big a risk.


Thank you. I've been wondering for years what FC stood for.
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Re: Rumors for a Pau trade in spanish newspaper 

Post#402 » by sisibilio » Sun Dec 9, 2012 11:39 pm

FinnTheHuman wrote:Hahahah I failed so hard. xD I was searching the net for what FC stands for, and there was no answer. It seems that they just took it from the football club name, no logic included. Really strange.

It's not that strange, simply the club was first created as a football club and the other sports were added later.
There are many clubs with "odd" names like tat, in Argentina for instance you have football teams that belong to multisport clubs named "Gimnasia y esgrima (gymnastics and fencing) de La Plata" or basketball teams like "Regatas (rowing) de Corrientes" depending on the sport the original club was founded for.
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Re: Rumors for a Pau trade in spanish newspaper 

Post#403 » by FinnTheHuman » Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:11 am

sisibilio wrote:
FinnTheHuman wrote:Hahahah I failed so hard. xD I was searching the net for what FC stands for, and there was no answer. It seems that they just took it from the football club name, no logic included. Really strange.

It's not that strange, simply the club was first created as a football club and the other sports were added later.
There are many clubs with "odd" names like tat, in Argentina for instance you have football teams that belong to multisport clubs named "Gimnasia y esgrima (gymnastics and fencing) de La Plata" or basketball teams like "Regatas (rowing) de Corrientes" depending on the sport the original club was founded for.


Still doesn't make enough sense. :D
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Re: Rumors for a Pau trade in spanish newspaper 

Post#404 » by Klomp » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:23 pm

Well here you go

“@DarrenWolfson: Didn't happen. “@mnsportsinsider: @DarrenWolfson Have you been able to verify if the #TWolves offered Pek for Pau?””
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Re: Rumors for a Pau trade in spanish newspaper 

Post#405 » by Mattya » Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:00 pm

Klomp wrote:Well here you go

“@DarrenWolfson: Didn't happen. “@mnsportsinsider: @DarrenWolfson Have you been able to verify if the #TWolves offered Pek for Pau?””



Well it is nice to be reaffirmed, but that won't help the rampant trade board stupidity. Once ESPN says something it is fact.
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Post#406 » by Saltine » Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:57 pm

Yep, like when we sent Beasley to the Lakers last season, and the Ridnour to Portland trade, or when we moved Rubio to the Knicks so he'd finally come to the US to play ball...

Though without the NY/LA media bias ESPN would have nothing to post about basketball beyond LeBron.
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Re: Rumors for a Pau trade in spanish newspaper 

Post#407 » by shrink » Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:31 pm

shrink wrote: The reason a Pau Gasol trade seems so unlikely is that the team would struggle to add enough negative value to a trade to make that salary equal for two years to Pau's expected value. Sure, he may return to form - but I think even the most fervent Laker fan would admit that there is significant risk that he does not, and with one of the most expensive contracts in the NBA, that's a huge huge gamble. Normal, cost-conscious teams like the Wolves can't drop $20 mil on one, under-performing player, and hope they have much chance that the rest of the payroll can still win.

One answer may be putting another piece into the trade that has a decent amount of negative trade value for year 2. The problem is that no one on the Wolves roster right now fits that description. Roy's contract ends, Ridnour and Barea have contracts that aren't really out of sync for good back-up PG's, Williams still carries positive value on the hope he makes good. Money has value, so adding the trade difference (less than $5 mil) is just making the deal worse for the Wolves.

Let me give an example. Suppose MIN went to OKC and said, what would you give us to get out from under Perkins contract? Expiring Roy and Barea for Perkins 3-year deal - would that get us Jeremy Lamb? OKC say, "Yeah - we need to move that deal, but we need a center coming back. If it was Pek and Barea, would you consider it if we added Perry Jones?" In this example, MIN may like the price, but not want to hold onto Perkins. In that case, it might make sense talking to LAL.


Now I'm not specifically advocating a deal with OKC, but I think the format is the only way to do a Gasol trade. We need to split a good asset into a very good one and a bad one (2-year overpaid but productive?), and then include the bad one in a package we'd send for Gasol.

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Post#408 » by shrink » Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:51 pm

Maybe Ridnour for Beasley and a Top 12 protected pick?

PHX wants to move Beasley on his new $5.75/$6.0/$6.25 pg deal, and it sounds like they'd take a non-productive expiring and eat salary this year just to be rid of him. Ridnour may be a good fit, since he's productive for both years, he saves Sarver $1.75 mil this year, and their current back-up PG is Telfair.

We get Beasley, but include him in a package for Gasol - pocketing that pick? He's has negative trade value, but the Lakers were interested in him last year at the trade deadline.


I could use more names of semi-productive, overpriced players on contracts in the $5-10 mil range.
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Re: Rumors for a Pau trade in spanish newspaper 

Post#409 » by eyeteeth » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:00 pm

shrink wrote:
I could use more names of semi-productive, overpriced players on contracts in the $5-10 mil range.

The only place I want to read those names are in other teams' tales of woe. :D
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Re: Rumors for a Pau trade in spanish newspaper 

Post#410 » by Klomp » Fri Jan 4, 2013 2:02 am

As long as Pau Gasol is a Laker, trade rumors will percolate, and as they do, they will always include the Wolves.

The fact is Kahn and Adelman love the thought of Gasol in their offense. Adelman's recipe for success in Sacramento was due in large part to Chris Webber and Vlade Divac. The Wolves look at Love and Gasol as comparable to that duo.

Gasol is an excellent passer. Adelman loves big men who excel at that. A team source said Taylor is willing to go over the luxury tax for the 2013-14 season if the right deal presents itself. With a salary of nearly $20 million next year, Gasol fits that mold.


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