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Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers

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Re: Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers 

Post#166 » by C.lupus » Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:52 am

Yeah Taylor and his son in law.
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Re: Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers 

Post#167 » by Klomp » Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:53 am

C.lupus wrote:Yeah Taylor and his son in law.

Oh yeah, forgot about Moor
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Re: Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers 

Post#168 » by Basti » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:18 am

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theGreatRC wrote:I find it funny that I see some fans with the #firekahn posts after the game.

I'm not a kahn man myself, but firing him because this team has lost players to injury is pretty funny.


Well, I'm sure hardcore Kahn haters will say he put up a team with injury prone players.

:roll:


It doesn't matter if it is Adelman's influence or not, Kahn got it done. He has put together a team full of talented players. To ignore that fact is just being thick.

Work results.


Work results, ladies and gentelmen.

Work results.


Sorry but even you have to admit that all the injuries are far from Kahn's fault. The only big question mark of all the injured players was Roy. It was a gamble that didn't pay off. The other big injury related question mark before this current team was assembled had been Kirilenko, who has surprisingly been pretty much healthy this year. The rest of the injuries occurred on freak accidents and all that. It's hardly Kahn's fault.
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Re: Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers 

Post#169 » by Klomp » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:12 am

Wow, FSN with perfect timing. Next two games not on local TV.
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Re: Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers 

Post#170 » by Tirion » Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:51 am

Basti wrote:
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Well, I'm sure hardcore Kahn haters will say he put up a team with injury prone players.

:roll:


It doesn't matter if it is Adelman's influence or not, Kahn got it done. He has put together a team full of talented players. To ignore that fact is just being thick.

Work results.


Work results, ladies and gentelmen.

Work results.


Sorry but even you have to admit that all the injuries are far from Kahn's fault. The only big question mark of all the injured players was Roy. It was a gamble that didn't pay off. The other big injury related question mark before this current team was assembled had been Kirilenko, who has surprisingly been pretty much healthy this year. The rest of the injuries occurred on freak accidents and all that. It's hardly Kahn's fault.


Adelman being responsible for the majority of personel descisions last offseason - context.
Most of the Wolves roster being injured - context.

According to Kahn's defenders context doesn't matter.
Results do.

This are the results.

Admit that Kahn is an incompetent buffoon, whose job was almost saved by a HOF coach, and I'll admit that he has nothing to do with the injuries.
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Re: Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers 

Post#171 » by lobishome » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:02 pm

Well, Peko could play next Saturday (right quad contusion), Shved will be out a few days (sprained left ankle) and Jelly Belly is ready ... then we still have hope ... right? :pray:
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Re: Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers 

Post#172 » by Basti » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:27 pm

Tirion wrote:Adelman being responsible for the majority of personel descisions last offseason - context.
Most of the Wolves roster being injured - context.

According to Kahn's defenders context doesn't matter.
Results do.

This are the results.

Admit that Kahn is an incompetent buffoon, whose job was almost saved by a HOF coach, and I'll admit that he has nothing to do with the injuries.


What? I've always put Kahn's decision into context. It doesn't help his cause that the results don't back it up but that's why I put them into context. Not sure what you're trying to do here.

And sorry the last bit is too stupid for me to answer. Like really. What a ridiculous comparison. As if it changes Kahn's role in regards to the injury whether he's a good GM or the worst person on the planet. Way to show your agenda here. It's like you're not even trying to hide it anymore.
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Re: Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers 

Post#173 » by shrink » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:43 pm

I didn't get a chance to watch the game - maybe that was for the best.

My question after looking at the box score: Did any of the Wolves look good on lasy night's the national stage? Since they obviously are looking for trades, I wondered if anybody helped their trade value on things you can't see in a box score?
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Re: Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers 

Post#174 » by C.lupus » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:14 pm

shrink wrote:I didn't get a chance to watch the game - maybe that was for the best.

My question after looking at the box score: Did any of the Wolves look good on lasy night's the national stage? Since they obviously are looking for trades, I wondered if anybody helped their trade value on things you can't see in a box score?

Of the main trade candidates:
Ridnour looked good - was hitting his hots.
Barea looked bad - seemed to miss everything, even gimme's and fouled a lot.
Williams looked meh - wasn't bad but didn't really do anything - had a tough matchup, though.
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Re: Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers 

Post#175 » by theGreatRC » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:28 pm

shrink wrote:I didn't get a chance to watch the game - maybe that was for the best.

My question after looking at the box score: Did any of the Wolves look good on lasy night's the national stage? Since they obviously are looking for trades, I wondered if anybody helped their trade value on things you can't see in a box score?


Luke looked pretty good; Shots were falling, he was hitting those jumpers he likes to take on fast breaks and he had a couple of nice dimes to AK..

Williams was trying to be aggressive at the rim, but it failed miserably and never got the calls that he wanted.

Pek looked very uncomfortable because he couldn't get that deep position in the post that he likes so much and when he did get that position, he was immediately doubled which is trouble on a team with no shooters.

Dante's mid-range wasn't falling
Shved was 0-4 in the first half and tried to get himself going in the 4th, but sprained his ankle
Ricky was post-ACL tear Ricky.
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Re: Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers 

Post#176 » by shrink » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:32 pm

Thanks guys. I'm glad Porter started Rubio and Williams, but it's a shame we couldn't have done better on the bigger stage.

With Rubio starting, today might be the perfect day to make that Ridnour trade .. I think a non-productive expiring and a Top 20 pick is fair .. if we can use this in a three-way to bring in some win-now talent (or at least two healthy knees)
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Re: Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers 

Post#177 » by Mattya » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:59 pm

So McLemore or Noel?
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Re: Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers 

Post#178 » by [RCG] » Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:47 pm

Would Portland do a S&T Pek for Matthews? If so I'd go Noel. If not it becomes a tough decision.
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Re: Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers 

Post#179 » by sisibilio » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:32 pm

[RCG] wrote:Would Portland do a S&T Pek for Matthews?

Sure, you can have also Freeland for some big man depth.
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Re: Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers 

Post#180 » by Tirion » Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:50 am

Basti wrote:
Tirion wrote:Adelman being responsible for the majority of personel descisions last offseason - context.
Most of the Wolves roster being injured - context.

According to Kahn's defenders context doesn't matter.
Results do.

This are the results.

Admit that Kahn is an incompetent buffoon, whose job was almost saved by a HOF coach, and I'll admit that he has nothing to do with the injuries.


What? I've always put Kahn's decision into context. It doesn't help his cause that the results don't back it up but that's why I put them into context. Not sure what you're trying to do here.

And sorry the last bit is too stupid for me to answer. Like really. What a ridiculous comparison. As if it changes Kahn's role in regards to the injury whether he's a good GM or the worst person on the planet. Way to show your agenda here. It's like you're not even trying to hide it anymore.


Kahn is a horrible GM.

At least admit it to yourself, even if you're embarrassed to do it here.
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Re: Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers 

Post#181 » by AQuintus » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:32 am

Mattya wrote:So McLemore or Noel?


Depends. If Adelman's back for another year (or more), then plug in McLemore at the 2. If Adelman's not back, then take Noel, blow up the team (trade Love and Pekovic), and try to go fast-break, run-and-gun built around Rubio, Shved, Noel, whoever we get for Love and Pek, and maybe Williams.
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Re: Rise and Shine: Wolves vs Clippers 

Post#182 » by Basti » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:10 pm

Tirion wrote:
Basti wrote:
Tirion wrote:Adelman being responsible for the majority of personel descisions last offseason - context.
Most of the Wolves roster being injured - context.

According to Kahn's defenders context doesn't matter.
Results do.

This are the results.

Admit that Kahn is an incompetent buffoon, whose job was almost saved by a HOF coach, and I'll admit that he has nothing to do with the injuries.


What? I've always put Kahn's decision into context. It doesn't help his cause that the results don't back it up but that's why I put them into context. Not sure what you're trying to do here.

And sorry the last bit is too stupid for me to answer. Like really. What a ridiculous comparison. As if it changes Kahn's role in regards to the injury whether he's a good GM or the worst person on the planet. Way to show your agenda here. It's like you're not even trying to hide it anymore.


Kahn is a horrible GM.

At least admit it to yourself, even if you're embarrassed to do it here.


You think he's a horrible GM. I think he's an average GM whose overall qualities are dragged down by his complete lack of talent evaluation.

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