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Re: Ridnour "being shopped" 

Post#81 » by SO_MONEY » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:41 pm

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shrink wrote:With Lee's fourth year adding more risk, I'd add Fab Melo for Steimsma to the deal to add value.


Counter-intuitive in my opinion, If the cap space usage and length of contract of Lee is a risk how do we counteract that when we bring in a center who has produced significantly less then the guy we are sending out and also is tied into a long-term contract.

Shrink, not a wise take from one of the wisest posters in IMHO.

I would look at a straight swap trying to pry away a pick, otherwise a swap. However with where Minnesota is at the moment out of the playoffs, I don't think they are really energetic about a deal like that being it is kind of a move to gear up for playoffs, balance roster depth ect.

I think in a deal with Ridnour the team is looking for something with more future flexibility.


I think we agree that we'd want some small piece of additional incentive. I think Fab Melo has more trade value than Steimsma (slightly positive vs slightly negative). If it's a protected pick, that's fine with me too. I think we agree that locking into four years of Courtney Lee could prove to be risky.


Well, Melo is junk and we would be locked into him as well, so reall that wants me to think we deserve even more value back. I think you are off on value, Stiemsma at the least is an expiring contract who is paid about 1mil over value, oh well, Melo is overpaid by 1.5mil but we would have at least 1...2 more years of that.

I just don't get it, heck Stiemsma is a better basketball player now, likely will be in the near future and quite possibly beyond that.

Sulinger even with the back might be more on par, I would decline because I am risk averse and know picks can be used in other ways other than selecting a player and that gives flexibility where we may be giving up some.
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Re: Ridnour "being shopped" 

Post#82 » by [RCG] » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:14 pm

Ridnour for Bradley and salary filler 8-)
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Post#83 » by Narf » Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:41 am

Fab Melo and C. Lee for Ridnour and Stiemsma seems right to me.
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Re: Ridnour "being shopped" 

Post#84 » by karch34 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:03 am

Narf wrote:Fab Melo and C. Lee for Ridnour and Stiemsma seems right to me.


Me too. Melo is a young piece, don't really like him, but enough value to make up the difference between Lee and Rid.
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Re: Ridnour "being shopped" 

Post#85 » by sisibilio » Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:33 pm

What about Jimmer? He's still stuck in Sac bench so he might be available for cheap.
I know he's not exactly what people around here are looking for but still an upgrade over Ridnour at the SG and playing next to bigger guards like Ricky and Shved his defensive deficiencies could be covered. Some would say it's just a lateral move and they might be right but i think it's a risk worth taking since you don't commit long term salary.

So Jimmer for Ridnour and a heavily protected 1st? something like top 22 in 2013- 2014, top 20 2015-2016, a second nd cash thereafter, or maybe the Grizzlies pick.
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Post#86 » by Devilzsidewalk » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:42 pm

Williams/Ridnour for Bass/Bradley
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Post#87 » by Mattya » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:44 pm

11m Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
The New York Knicks have expressed interest in Minnesota Timberwolves point guard Luke Ridnour, according to source.
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Post#88 » by Mr_Perfect » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:55 pm

Ronnie Brewer for Luke Ridnour?
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Post#89 » by Mattya » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:57 pm

Don't think that works money wise.
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Re: Ridnour "being shopped" 

Post#90 » by Klomp » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:58 pm

Gut feeling: Steve Novak. Provides the shooter we've been begging for.

What makes it tough is Ridnour's 4m salary. Only Knicks in that salary range are Felton (not happening), Camby (possible, but unlikely), Novak, and Kidd (once again, unlikely)

Not saying I'd do it, but I have to think that's what has a decent chance, if anything, of happening.
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Re: Ridnour "being shopped" 

Post#91 » by Mr_Perfect » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:04 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6236681

This trade would work and you could cut Thomas and White.

That's if your interest in Brewer is that high.
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Post#92 » by theGreatRC » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:07 pm

I would do Rid, Lee for Brew and Wetvak if Lee can be traded
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Re: Ridnour "being shopped" 

Post#93 » by SO_MONEY » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:07 pm

Mr_Perfect wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6236681

This trade would work and you could cut Thomas and White.

That's if your interest in Brewer is that high.


Not a legal trade both teams have full rosters can only trade at a 1:1 ratio.

Lastly, Ridnour is worth FAR more than Brewer.

If I were to speculate it would be M. Lee and a 2nd for R. Brewer.
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Post#94 » by Klomp » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:11 pm

SO_MONEY wrote:If I were to speculate it would be M. Lee and a 2nd for R. Brewer.

But how does that send Ridnour to NY, which is what the rumors are stating?!
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Re: Ridnour "being shopped" 

Post#95 » by Mr_Perfect » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:18 pm

SO_MONEY wrote:
Mr_Perfect wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6236681

This trade would work and you could cut Thomas and White.

That's if your interest in Brewer is that high.


Not a legal trade both teams have full rosters can only trade at a 1:1 ratio.

Lastly, Ridnour is worth FAR more than Brewer.

If I were to speculate it would be M. Lee and a 2nd for R. Brewer.


I believe you can acquire these players (Kurt, White) and waive them before they even get to your team.
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Re: Ridnour "being shopped" 

Post#96 » by SO_MONEY » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:21 pm

Klomp wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:If I were to speculate it would be M. Lee and a 2nd for R. Brewer.

But how does that send Ridnour to NY, which is what the rumors are stating?!


I never saw Ridnour linked to NY, just that they were talking. In fact I read the opposite that NY likely isn't interested in Ridnour.

Did someone post something?

Knicks, Wolves Talking Trade
February 12 at 10:29pm CST By Chuck Myron

Wolves GM David Kahn is in talks with the Knicks about a trade, according to Darren Wolfson of 1500 ESPN Twin Cities, though it's unclear which players are being discussed (Twitter link). Wolfson tweets his suspicion that Ronnie Brewer could be headed to Minnesota, but that appears to simply be an educated guess, as the Wolves made an offer to Brewer over the summer before he signed with the Knicks. Both teams have full rosters with 15 players, limiting flexibility, but the Knicks may be looking to add depth to their front line, while the injury-depleted Wolves could use some healthy bodies.

Wolfson speculates via Twitter that a long list of Knicks, including Carmelo Anthony, Tyson Chandler and Jason Kidd, are probably off-limits in any trade conversations. The Knicks are a taxpaying team while the Timberwolves are well below the tax line, but given that New York is in title contention while Minnesota is probably looking toward next season, I don't think the Knicks are looking to pawn off any salary. Coincidentally, the Knicks are one of a few teams that reportedly has interest in Lou Amundson, whom the Wolves just waived.

The Wolves have been shopping Luke Ridnour, according to Chris Sheridan of SheridanHoops.com, but the Knicks, like the Wolves, seem set at point guard, with Raymond Felton, Kidd and Pablo Prigioni around to man the position. The Wolves' most glaring need seems to be at the two, and while shooting guard Iman Shumpert's name has been linked to the Suns, it appears that rumor came from Phoenix's side.


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Re: Ridnour "being shopped" 

Post#97 » by SO_MONEY » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:22 pm

Mr_Perfect wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:
Mr_Perfect wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6236681

This trade would work and you could cut Thomas and White.

That's if your interest in Brewer is that high.


Not a legal trade both teams have full rosters can only trade at a 1:1 ratio.

Lastly, Ridnour is worth FAR more than Brewer.

If I were to speculate it would be M. Lee and a 2nd for R. Brewer.


I believe you can acquire these players (Kurt, White) and waive them before they even get to your team.


You cannot.
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Re: Ridnour "being shopped" 

Post#98 » by moss_is_1 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:23 pm

Yeah the Knicks have nothing to trade for Luke..only piece they have that they would want to move is Camby, who has been terrible. So unless you want to do Camby/Shump for Luke...I don't see much for the Wolves to really do.
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Post#99 » by AQuintus » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:50 pm

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The New York Knicks have expressed interest in Minnesota Timberwolves point guard Luke Ridnour, according to source.
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Post#100 » by Klomp » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:52 pm

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The New York Knicks have expressed interest in Minnesota Timberwolves point guard Luke Ridnour, according to source.

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