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Post#16 Re: Putting Together Rumors (MN-PHI-ATL)
Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:21 am by [RCG]

But why would they trade for Pek when they have Bynum?
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Post#17 Re: Putting Together Rumors (MN-PHI-ATL)
Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:31 am by Klomp

[RCG] wrote:But why would they trade for Pek when they have Bynum?

Today's update:

Tom Moore‏@tmoorepburbs

#Sixers #Bynum having pain in left knee, 'not sure' if still can play this month.


He hasn't played a game for them this season and is a UFA. Their fans are fed up with him.
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Post#18 Re: Putting Together Rumors (MN-PHI-ATL)
Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:06 am by CoreyGallagher

[RCG] wrote:But why would they trade for Pek when they have Bynum?

Sixers fan here, with each update Bynum gives it's seeming less likely to us that he will a) play at all this season and/or b) resign with us after the season, if we could get a Pek whom is around the age of Bynum, is a big whom has proven that he can rebound which we desperately need, and is physical than we could just resign him and cover our bases if Bynum does not. Believe Ridnour, since his contract is a year less than JJ's would be a tad more desirable to the Sixers and it seems the Wolves are shopping him, but that is neither here nor there.

In regards to trading Turner, he clashes with Doug Collins a lot and he seems to dislike playing here, when he is confident and you can see when he is in his body language he plays like an All Star, when he gets down in the dumps he plays like a total scrub so Adelman would have to deal with that, Collins seems to not want to. With Love and his rebounding Hawes' lack of a post presence won't matter as much, however on a team where the other front court player is either the most laid back player in the game in Lavoy Allen or an undersized tweener in Thad Young his deficiencies become extremely magnified, getting his contract off the books would benefit us.
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Post#19 Re: Putting Together Rumors (MN-PHI-ATL)
Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:44 am by shrink

Thanks for posting Corey! One of the reasons I spend so much time on RealGM is because we get the inside scoop on teams from fellow fans that know them best. Your info isn't the type of stuff that makes the national media, so thank you for taking the time to post!
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Post#20 Re: Putting Together Rumors (MN-PHI-ATL)
Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:23 am by Dewey

I'd prbably rather try to swap some of our own spit for Turner alone ... adds size as a utility player and he can handle the ball. The big quesion is how he'll be long-term "off the ball", but I think he'd be fine in combo with Rubio/Shved/Bud/AK.

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Post#21 Re: Putting Together Rumors (MN-PHI-ATL)
Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:06 am by Devilzsidewalk

Pek isn't on the table for those guys, they're welcome to Ridnour and Williams though
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Post#22 Re: Putting Together Rumors (MN-PHI-ATL)
Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:16 pm by phonzadellika

As much as I am intrigued by Evan Turner, I'm just not really excited to see the best center in TWolves history traded without a center prospect coming back that has the potential to be just as good.

I'd rather go Pek/KLove and hope that Pek can return to his 2011 offensive form.
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Post#23 Re: Putting Together Rumors (MN-PHI-ATL)
Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:48 pm by Wolf_Cry

Evan Turner doesn't do much for me. He doesn't solve our shooting or defensive perimeter issues. He's a ball handler yah....so that somewhat helps. I would NOT do this trade. In fact, I think Philly is fleecing everyone by giving up so little and getting back Josh Smith.
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Post#24 Re: Putting Together Rumors (MN-PHI-ATL)
Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:42 pm by eyeteeth

I could see a Luke/DWill for Turner type trade, but otherwise, no thanks. Also, if Turner is clashing with Doug Collins, he wouldn't even get off the bench under Adelman.
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Post#25 Re: Putting Together Rumors (MN-PHI-ATL)
Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:01 pm by Figjamjr

Wolf_Cry wrote:Evan Turner doesn't do much for me. He doesn't solve our shooting or defensive perimeter issues. He's a ball handler yah....so that somewhat helps. I would NOT do this trade. In fact, I think Philly is fleecing everyone by giving up so little and getting back Josh Smith.


Exactly right. Pek is next best player after Smith so the Wolves should be getting Josh Smith. We don't need PHI involved. Pek and Dwill + a future protected 1st for Josh Smith. Then move Love to Center and let's play!
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Post#26 Re: Putting Together Rumors (MN-PHI-ATL)
Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:17 pm by jfg

I can see the value here for the team, but there has to be more. It would be a PR nightmare to trade Pek for role players no matter the reasoning.
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Post#27 Re: Putting Together Rumors (MN-PHI-ATL)
Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:20 pm by mandurugo

Devilzsidewalk wrote:Pek isn't on the table for those guys, they're welcome to Ridnour and Williams though


Williams is not on the table, the wolves will regret trading him if they do. But speaking to Corey's concerns about Bynum - if PHI won't sign him, who would? He's an injury prone cancer. I wouldn't sign him for a less than the league min.
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Post#28 Re: Putting Together Rumors (MN-PHI-ATL)
Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:17 pm by jfg

I'm pretty sure every team in the league would sign Bynum to league minimum including Philly, I would bet every team in the league would sign him to a 5 million/3yr contract if they had the cap room... and I'm guessing that there will be at least a few teams who will gamble on him and give him 7-8 mil for 2-3 years. You become a lot less of a liability when you're not making 17 million a year.
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Post#29 Re: Putting Together Rumors (MN-PHI-ATL)
Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:20 pm by Geaux_Hawks

Is Hawes a target of the Wolves, and could him and Morrow be enough for D Will to be moved? I think Philly, Minny, and Atlanta are good partners for a decent trade to get everyone what they want.

Minny Trades: Williams and Ridnour
Minny Receives: Hawes and Morrow

Philly Trades: Hawes and Turner
Philly Receives: Josh Smith

Hawks Trade: Josh Smith and Morrow
Hawks Receive: Turner, Williams, and Ridnour


From a Hawks perspective, we are looking for a combo of expirings, picks, and young talent for Smith. Me personally, wouldn't mind having Williams and Turner going into the future. Hawes is more like insurance for if Pek leaves.
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Post#30 Re: Putting Together Rumors (MN-PHI-ATL)
Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:54 pm by Devilzsidewalk

mandurugo wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:Pek isn't on the table for those guys, they're welcome to Ridnour and Williams though


Williams is not on the table, the wolves will regret trading him if they do.


he might have the best rapport with ricky than anybody else on the team, but is still basically a spot up shooter w/ mediocre accuracy that can sneak in for an alley oop every once in awhile. No post game, very little face up game, no mid range game. I'd move him for any solid SG.
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Post#31 Re: Putting Together Rumors (MN-PHI-ATL)
Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:35 pm by C.lupus

Geaux_Hawks wrote:Is Hawes a target of the Wolves, and could him and Morrow be enough for D Will to be moved? I think Philly, Minny, and Atlanta are good partners for a decent trade to get everyone what they want.

Minny Trades: Williams and Ridnour
Minny Receives: Hawes and Morrow

Philly Trades: Hawes and Turner
Philly Receives: Josh Smith

Hawks Trade: Josh Smith and Morrow
Hawks Receive: Turner, Williams, and Ridnour


From a Hawks perspective, we are looking for a combo of expirings, picks, and young talent for Smith. Me personally, wouldn't mind having Williams and Turner going into the future. Hawes is more like insurance for if Pek leaves.

That's not bad, imo, but I think Williams is more likely to be dealt in the offseason since Love isn't due back for another month.
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