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Post#101 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:30 am by Tirion

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Worm Guts wrote:Which borderline all-star did we trade for 2nd round picks?


Big Al.

We got 2 firsts for Al.


Ah yes, I forgot.

What happened to this two picks, btw?
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Post#102 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:46 am by The J Rocka

Tirion wrote:Ah yes, I forgot.

What happened to this two picks, btw?

Think last year (18) was from Jazz which turned into Budinger and we have the Grizzlies lotto protected 1st (25) this year.
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Post#103 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:50 am by Klomp

Tirion wrote:Ah yes, I forgot.

What happened to this two picks, btw?

Those were the Dontatas Montiejunas trade and the Chase Budinger trade.
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Post#104 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:51 am by Klomp

The J Rocka wrote:Think last year (18) was from Jazz which turned into Budinger and we have the Grizzlies lotto protected 1st (25) this year.

The Grizz pick was Montiejunas. We got this years Grizz pick back in that deal.

So what about the two draft picks obtained in the Jefferson deal?

Well, with the 2011 pick, the Wolves took seven-footer Donatas Motiejunas — and dealt him that same night along with Jonny Flynn to Houston in exchange for Brad Miller, Nikola Mirotic, Chandler Parsons and a future first-round pick. By far the most valuable of the players in that haul turned out to be Parsons — whom Kahn immediately traded back to Houston that night for cash. Parsons currently ranks second on the Rockets, who have a record of 29-26, in minutes, points and rebounds. Of the others, Miller played 146 minutes over 15 games with the Wolves and was involved in another trade that won’t be explained because it would complicate this saga too much, which you’ll realize after you read the next paragraph.

Mirotic? He was traded that same very busy June draft night to the Chicago Bulls for Norris Cole, Malcolm Lee and cash and has yet to play an NBA game. Cole? Traded to Miami on that same frenzied June evening with cash and a future second-round pick in exchange for Bojan Bogdanovic. Cole is now the backup point guard, ranked eighth in minutes, for the defending champion Heat, who currently have a record of 36-14. Bogdanovic? Traded to New Jersey (now Brooklyn) on that same uncontrollable June night for the Nets second-round draft pick in 2013—and cash.

Fortunately, this blizzard of transactions ends with one silver lining for the Wolves. In exchange for Utah’s top pick in the 2012 draft that they received in the Jefferson deal, Minnesota acquired Chase Budinger from Houston.


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Post#105 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:53 am by The J Rocka

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The J Rocka wrote:Think last year (18) was from Jazz which turned into Budinger and we have the Grizzlies lotto protected 1st (25) this year.

The Grizz pick was Montiejunas. We got this years Grizz pick back in that deal.

Ah okay.

Well, the Big Al trade wasn't as bad as others think. We could've came out with a decent player with that 20th pick had we not have had to worry about getting money for a Rambis buyout. :-?
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Post#106 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:13 am by Klomp

By the way, we currently own

8 - Our own pick
25 - From Memphis
*Acquired in Donatas Montiejunas 2011 draft day trade
51 - From Brooklyn
*Acquired in Bogdanovic 2011 draft day trade, traded away in Miller trade, reacquired in Johnson trade
59 - From Oklahoma City
*Acquired in Lazar Hayward trade

I think I have it right
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Post#107 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:57 am by Vindicater

I am confused as to why we can't give up the Memphis pick to Phoenix?
Well, West said, both Thomas and Dumars could push the envelope offensively, "but Joe's defense sets him apart."
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Post#108 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:08 am by Klomp

Vindicater wrote:I am confused as to why we can't give up the Memphis pick to Phoenix?

I'm not sure either.

I just know its been verified with both the Phoenix and Minnesota front offices that the only way that would happen is if Minnesota makes the playoffs.
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Post#109 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:45 am by Fischella

Vindicater wrote:I am confused as to why we can't give up the Memphis pick to Phoenix?

The pick only goes to Phoenix if the Wolves make the PO, and the Wolves can send the worse pick between yours and Grizz's
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Post#110 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:36 am by Klomp

Through 2/19

1. Charlotte (13-40) .245
2. Orlando (15-38) .283
3. Washington (15-37) .288
4. Cleveland (16-37) .302
5. Phoenix (18-36) .333
6. Sacramento (19-36) .345
7. New Orleans (19-35) .352
8. Minnesota (19-31) .380
9. Detroit (21-34) .382
10. Toronto (22-32) .402
11. Philadelphia (22-29) .431
12. Dallas (23-29) .442
13. Los Angeles (25-29) .463
14. Portland (25-29) .463
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16. Houston (29-26) .527 *Current 8th seed
26. Memphis (34-18) .654

2/20 Key Games
Memphis @ Toronto
Detroit @ Charlotte
New Orleans @ Cleveland
Oklahoma City @ Houston
Philadelphia @ Minnesota
Orlando @ Dallas
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Post#111 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:07 am by Klomp

Through 2/20

1. Charlotte (13-41) .241
2. Orlando (15-39) .278
3. Washington (15-37) .288
4. Cleveland (17-37) .315
5. Phoenix (18-37) .327
6. Sacramento (19-36) .345
7. New Orleans (19-36) .345
8. Minnesota (20-31) .392
9. Detroit (22-34) .393
10. Toronto (22-33) .400
11. Philadelphia (22-30) .423
12. Dallas (24-29) .443
13. Portland (25-29) .463
14. Los Angeles (26-29) .473
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17. Houston (30-26) .536 *Current 8th seed
26. Memphis (35-18) .660
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Post#112 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:04 pm by Devilzsidewalk

right out of range of the guy(s) we really need, as usual. Shabazz, Noel, McLemore, and Oladipo probably all gone when we pick
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Post#113 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:11 am by Klomp

Through 2/25

1. Charlotte (13-43) .232
2. Orlando (15-41) .268
3. Phoenix (18-39) .316
4. Cleveland (18-38) .321
5. Washington (18-37) .327
6. Sacramento (19-38) .333
7. New Orleans (20-37) .351
8. Detroit (22-37) .373
9. Minnesota (20-33) .377
10. Toronto (23-34) .404
11. Philadelphia (22-32) .407
12. Dallas (25-30) .455
13. Portland (26-30) .464
14. Los Angeles (28-30) .483
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17. Houston (31-27) .534 *Current 8th seed
26. Memphis (37-18) .673

Tuesdays Games
ORL @ PHI
MIN @ PHX
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Post#114 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:14 am by shrink

While I can't watch a game and actually root against us, I realize the team will be better off in the long run if we get a better chance at a top 3 lottery pick.

I'm amazed that the #3 seed has 20 wins, while we're at #9 with 22. Sure, lots of more games to play that we could win, but that seems tightly packed to me, and a good chance to add more ping pong balls.
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Post#115 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:21 am by Gideon

I'm seeing Oladipo mostly projected around #9 (both nbadraft and draftexpress have him there) -- right where we would likely pick if the lottery happened now.

I saw somebody mention that he will likely be gone by the time we pick -- are these projections out-of-date? If not, I actually really like the idea of getting Oladipo... a high energy 2/3 who plays excellent defense and can hit open threes seems like a perfect fit. I get that he's not expected to have the massive upside of somebody like McLemore (or even Muhammad), but he seems like he would be a very good puzzle piece for us.
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Post#116 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:20 am by [RCG]

Noel - injured
McLemore - shooting but what else?
Muhammad - can score but not super athletic and doesn't play much D
Porter - stock will rise IMO
Zeller - questions about position in NBA
Len - still needs a little polishing
Bennett - haven't heard much buzz around him
Smart - combo guard, tough defensively
Burke - a little undersized
Austin - not as strong as you'd like for an NBA big man

Many guys have some questions surrounding them that could cause Oladipo to pass them. I honestly don't think there is that much separating him right now from McLemore & Muhammad.
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Post#117 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:25 am by moss_is_1

We should be able to get a good player. There's 3 guys who are above the rest right now(McLemore/Noel/Shabazz), but that could tighten with McLemore/Shabazz struggling and Noel hurt. I think there is a lot of good talent in this draft, just no superstar types.
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Post#118 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:14 pm by Gideon

If Noel drops because of his injury, I think he would be an incredible steal anywhere outside of the top 2 or 3. I'm actually really high on Noel. I know he doesn't fit our needs positionally, but if we decide to move either Love or Pek (not trying to start a debate on this in this thread... just saying if we do move either of them), I think he would be a great choice or even worth packaging our pick and D-Will to get the #4 or whatever (if we know Noel will be there).

A player who doesn't need the ball in his hands to make a huge impact is just SO valuable -- Noel is the sort of player you can team up with almost anybody and have it work. If we had Noel along with AK and Ricky, that would just be an insanely good defensive team... then we could look to the two other spots for scoring/shooting, possibly even utilizing a player who isn't that great defensively, since we would be able to cover for him so well.
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Post#119 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:40 am by Tirion

Detroit and Sacto won,
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Post#120 Re: Pick Watch 2013
Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:58 am by Esohny

Devilzsidewalk wrote:right out of range of the guy(s) we really need, as usual. Shabazz, Noel, McLemore, and Oladipo probably all gone when we pick


Would you have confidence that the Wolves would pick the right player, anyway?
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OJ Mayo is one of the best defenders in the league, hes a two way player and hes a great passer and playmaker.
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