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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#91 » by Tirion » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:13 am

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Turnover_21 wrote:And again your boy Kevin Love just met with grandpa Glenn and apparently they are on the same page and I can bet money that the page is called winning more games in near future.


They met because Taylor needs to sell tickets for the 2nd half of the season, so he was asking Love to play in March-April.

Short-term cash rules everyting around Papa Glen. Often to the detriment of the other aspects of franchise managment.


You're wrong. Taylor has Rubio to sell tickets and it's not hard to see why. As you might have noticed Love fell out of favor with alot of fans. So I think the meeting was more to clear the air and to see if Love may want to change address. So far he said that he wants to stick around for now.


You're out of the loop, they are doubling/tripling the rate for season tickets, while the product is still losses and no playoffs, plus the arena is half-empty all the time.

Rubio alone is not enough for that and Glen is desperate.

And nobody is talking about those idiots still mad at Love, I'm talking about people who go to games.

First, though, Taylor said, the Wolves (19-31 at the all-star break) have to get through this season.

"And see how it goes," he said.

Taylor told Love that it's important for the owner to find out, "at some point in time," if he can play toward the end of the season.

"Because that will give us some information," he said.

Love, a two-time all-star, hasn't played since fracturing his right hand Jan. 3 in Denver.

Taylor said his chat with Love "wasn't any big secret. We just talked about things. My concern is how is he coming, getting ready, his physical shape. He says he's doing all those things and I really believe him. He's hopeful (to return by) mid-March. It's up to the doctor, the trainers, how well he feels. I think it's important that we communicate."


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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#92 » by Worm Guts » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:30 am

Taylor gave out the biggest contract in NBA history and has gone into the luxury tax multiple times. He's not quite the cheapskate you make him out to be.
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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#93 » by Tirion » Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:02 am

When was the last time he was in the tax tho?
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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#94 » by Tirion » Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:24 am

And it isn't even about the tax really (I mean even OKC aren't going there with the new CBA).

It's about Taylor willing to

1) risk possible re-injury for Love;
2) decrease the chances for a high pick in a lost season;

so he could justify a higher pricetag.
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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#95 » by southern wolf » Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:50 am

Tirion wrote:When was the last time he was in the tax tho?


We haven't had a playoff calibre squad to warrant it in years.
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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#96 » by Tirion » Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:58 am

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Tirion wrote:When was the last time he was in the tax tho?


We haven't had a playoff calibre squad to warrant it in years.


Which obviously gives FO the greenlight to trade borderline All-Stars for 2nd round picks, sell draft picks for money and lowball your franchise player.
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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#97 » by Worm Guts » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:02 am

Which borderline all-star did we trade for 2nd round picks?
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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#98 » by Tirion » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:03 am

southern wolf wrote:
Tirion wrote:When was the last time he was in the tax tho?


We haven't had a playoff calibre squad to warrant it in years.


And we have one now.

Is Glen going to match offers for PEK?

Or add quality players to the roster?
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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#99 » by Tirion » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:03 am

Worm Guts wrote:Which borderline all-star did we trade for 2nd round picks?


Big Al.
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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#100 » by Worm Guts » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:10 am

Tirion wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:Which borderline all-star did we trade for 2nd round picks?


Big Al.

We got 2 firsts for Al.
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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#101 » by Tirion » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:30 am

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Worm Guts wrote:Which borderline all-star did we trade for 2nd round picks?


Big Al.

We got 2 firsts for Al.


Ah yes, I forgot.

What happened to this two picks, btw?
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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#102 » by The J Rocka » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:46 am

Tirion wrote:Ah yes, I forgot.

What happened to this two picks, btw?

Think last year (18) was from Jazz which turned into Budinger and we have the Grizzlies lotto protected 1st (25) this year.
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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#103 » by Klomp » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:50 am

Tirion wrote:Ah yes, I forgot.

What happened to this two picks, btw?

Those were the Dontatas Montiejunas trade and the Chase Budinger trade.
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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#104 » by Klomp » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:51 am

The J Rocka wrote:Think last year (18) was from Jazz which turned into Budinger and we have the Grizzlies lotto protected 1st (25) this year.

The Grizz pick was Montiejunas. We got this years Grizz pick back in that deal.

So what about the two draft picks obtained in the Jefferson deal?

Well, with the 2011 pick, the Wolves took seven-footer Donatas Motiejunas — and dealt him that same night along with Jonny Flynn to Houston in exchange for Brad Miller, Nikola Mirotic, Chandler Parsons and a future first-round pick. By far the most valuable of the players in that haul turned out to be Parsons — whom Kahn immediately traded back to Houston that night for cash. Parsons currently ranks second on the Rockets, who have a record of 29-26, in minutes, points and rebounds. Of the others, Miller played 146 minutes over 15 games with the Wolves and was involved in another trade that won’t be explained because it would complicate this saga too much, which you’ll realize after you read the next paragraph.

Mirotic? He was traded that same very busy June draft night to the Chicago Bulls for Norris Cole, Malcolm Lee and cash and has yet to play an NBA game. Cole? Traded to Miami on that same frenzied June evening with cash and a future second-round pick in exchange for Bojan Bogdanovic. Cole is now the backup point guard, ranked eighth in minutes, for the defending champion Heat, who currently have a record of 36-14. Bogdanovic? Traded to New Jersey (now Brooklyn) on that same uncontrollable June night for the Nets second-round draft pick in 2013—and cash.

Fortunately, this blizzard of transactions ends with one silver lining for the Wolves. In exchange for Utah’s top pick in the 2012 draft that they received in the Jefferson deal, Minnesota acquired Chase Budinger from Houston.


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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#105 » by The J Rocka » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:53 am

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The J Rocka wrote:Think last year (18) was from Jazz which turned into Budinger and we have the Grizzlies lotto protected 1st (25) this year.

The Grizz pick was Montiejunas. We got this years Grizz pick back in that deal.

Ah okay.

Well, the Big Al trade wasn't as bad as others think. We could've came out with a decent player with that 20th pick had we not have had to worry about getting money for a Rambis buyout. :-?
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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#106 » by Klomp » Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:13 am

By the way, we currently own

8 - Our own pick
25 - From Memphis
*Acquired in Donatas Montiejunas 2011 draft day trade
51 - From Brooklyn
*Acquired in Bogdanovic 2011 draft day trade, traded away in Miller trade, reacquired in Johnson trade
59 - From Oklahoma City
*Acquired in Lazar Hayward trade

I think I have it right
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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#107 » by Vindicater » Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:57 am

I am confused as to why we can't give up the Memphis pick to Phoenix?
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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#108 » by Klomp » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:08 am

Vindicater wrote:I am confused as to why we can't give up the Memphis pick to Phoenix?

I'm not sure either.

I just know its been verified with both the Phoenix and Minnesota front offices that the only way that would happen is if Minnesota makes the playoffs.
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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#109 » by Fischella » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:45 am

Vindicater wrote:I am confused as to why we can't give up the Memphis pick to Phoenix?

The pick only goes to Phoenix if the Wolves make the PO, and the Wolves can send the worse pick between yours and Grizz's
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Re: Pick Watch 2013 

Post#110 » by Klomp » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:36 am

Through 2/19

1. Charlotte (13-40) .245
2. Orlando (15-38) .283
3. Washington (15-37) .288
4. Cleveland (16-37) .302
5. Phoenix (18-36) .333
6. Sacramento (19-36) .345
7. New Orleans (19-35) .352
8. Minnesota (19-31) .380
9. Detroit (21-34) .382
10. Toronto (22-32) .402
11. Philadelphia (22-29) .431
12. Dallas (23-29) .442
13. Los Angeles (25-29) .463
14. Portland (25-29) .463
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16. Houston (29-26) .527 *Current 8th seed
26. Memphis (34-18) .654

2/20 Key Games
Memphis @ Toronto
Detroit @ Charlotte
New Orleans @ Cleveland
Oklahoma City @ Houston
Philadelphia @ Minnesota
Orlando @ Dallas
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