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Call it now: Who we gettin by the trade deadline???

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Post#361 » by NikolaPekovic » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:16 am

I want to extend pek. but we NEED a good young center to back him up. We could always sign pek and trade him down the road of things dont work out.. but im hoping it does.
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Post#362 » by sisibilio » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:33 am

NikolaPekovic wrote:I want to extend pek. but we NEED a good young center to back him up. We could always sign pek and trade him down the road of things dont work out.. but im hoping it does.

If Taylor is willing to pay the tax or Kahn clears enough salary somehow maybe you can make another Shvedlike move in the offseasn and go after Vitor Faverani, after some dissapointing years in Malaga he seems to have put his ***** ***** ** together and is playing like he cares.
He's under contract for 2 more seasons but probably has an affordable buyout.
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Post#363 » by Murphs56 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:53 am

Personally, I'd like to re-sign Pek, re-sign Bud, and add a starting claiber 2 guard this summer. I'd like to see what that team can do. That of course with a healthy Love and Healthy Rubio finally playing together
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Post#364 » by southern wolf » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:59 am

The Bucks got Redick for scraps! Scraps! Why couldn't we pull that off?!
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Post#365 » by Klomp » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:11 am

southern wolf wrote:The Bucks got Redick for scraps! Scraps! Why couldn't we pull that off?!

Because we don't have any expiring contracts
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Post#366 » by [RCG] » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:16 am

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southern wolf wrote:The Bucks got Redick for scraps! Scraps! Why couldn't we pull that off?!

Because we don't have any expiring contracts


Roy... Stiemsma?

Roy, Malcolm Lee, Memphis 1st
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Post#367 » by Nuggets_Talk » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:17 am

PZiv wrote:Not like hes third string in your 5 spot, anyway right? You prolly need Greg Stiemsma to cover his departure, don't you?
Apart from Brandon Roy being the only terrible thing in the deal, I think you overestimate 10mpg player while you have logjam on his position(+you drafted another guy on 5). On the other hand, I myself have serious doubts would have even perform better than the Stiemer did or he would have his own terrible display of skills.


i think you missed the point.

we "missed out" on a 20-something pick in a weak draft? id much rather keep a 7 footer as insurance/size. and hes certainly better than stiesma.
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Post#368 » by Worm Guts » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:24 am

southern wolf wrote:The Bucks got Redick for scraps! Scraps! Why couldn't we pull that off?!


He's a free agent, giving up anything for him would have been risky.
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Post#369 » by jfg » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:28 am

25 million dollars is a lot of cap space to have tied to two players with the same skill set. We don't need both of them and we are in the unfortunate position of having the better one griping about playing in Minnesota. We need one of them and the lesser one's contract is up first. Not good. But, what option do they have but to resign him? If they let him go they only have 7 million to play with in free agency. Even Mozkov is going to get close to that and then we're still looking at what kind of SG we can get for a combo of D-Will, Ridnour and a draft pick. The same option they have if they keep Pek. At least with Pek we have that insurance if Love leaves and if he doesn't we have a trade asset.
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Post#370 » by Klomp » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:33 am

jfg wrote:We don't need both of them and we are in the unfortunate position of having the better one griping about playing in Minnesota. We need one of them and the lesser one's contract is up first. Not good.

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Post#371 » by Worm Guts » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:33 am

Love and Pekovic don't have the same skill set. There's really no reason to make a decision now. Let's at least see what they can do together with a full healthy season.
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Post#372 » by The J Rocka » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:45 am

Worm Guts wrote:Love and Pekovic don't have the same skill set. There's really no reason to make a decision now. Let's at least see what they can do together with a full healthy season.

I think in a sense of being below average defenders, not long or athletic, slow to get up the court, and not finishing with authority at the rim, they are similar in that sense.
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Post#373 » by Tirion » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:02 am

The J Rocka wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:Love and Pekovic don't have the same skill set. There's really no reason to make a decision now. Let's at least see what they can do together with a full healthy season.

I think in a sense of being below average defenders, not long or athletic, slow to get up the court, and not finishing with authority at the rim, they are similar in that sense.


PEK is not a below-average defender. Check his opponent's PER or, you know, watch Tony Friggin Parker being forced to pass the ball one-on-one against him.

"Long or athletic"? Are you Kahn? I don't give a **** about long and athletic (see Johnson, Wes), I care about the ability to play basketball. And you should too.

"Slow to get up the court"? Have you missed PEK beating other team's guards to the rim? I don't even know where are you getting this stuff. Do you even watch games, bro?
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Post#374 » by Murphs56 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:02 am

The J Rocka wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:Love and Pekovic don't have the same skill set. There's really no reason to make a decision now. Let's at least see what they can do together with a full healthy season.

I think in a sense of being below average defenders, not long or athletic, slow to get up the court, and not finishing with authority at the rim, they are similar in that sense.


Their games compliment each other very well. Just from viewing the way they play, they seem to feed off one another especially on the offensive glass. Pek is a lot worse on the glass in my opinion without Love. Love requires a lot of attention
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Post#375 » by Tirion » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:08 am

Also "not finishing with authority" line is stupid too. Ugly points count just the same as the dunks.
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Post#376 » by NikolaPekovic » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:10 am

Murphs56 wrote:
The J Rocka wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:Love and Pekovic don't have the same skill set. There's really no reason to make a decision now. Let's at least see what they can do together with a full healthy season.

I think in a sense of being below average defenders, not long or athletic, slow to get up the court, and not finishing with authority at the rim, they are similar in that sense.


Their games compliment each other very well. Just from viewing the way they play, they seem to feed off one another especially on the offensive glass. Pek is a lot worse on the glass in my opinion without Love. Love requires a lot of attention


We just need a 3rd athletic shot blocking big man who could fill in at either spot.

Honestly i would be down for a derrick willians-Biyombo trade. We are getting another project in a sense but its a project that benefits our team more.

Just theorycrafting :D
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Post#377 » by Tirion » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:19 am

Steamer was supposed to provide the shotblocking part.
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Post#378 » by The J Rocka » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:31 am

Tirion wrote:
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Worm Guts wrote:Love and Pekovic don't have the same skill set. There's really no reason to make a decision now. Let's at least see what they can do together with a full healthy season.

I think in a sense of being below average defenders, not long or athletic, slow to get up the court, and not finishing with authority at the rim, they are similar in that sense.


PEK is not a below-average defender. Check his opponent's PER or, you know, watch Tony Friggin Parker being forced to pass the ball one-on-one against him.

"Long or athletic"? Are you Kahn? I don't give a **** about long and athletic (see Johnson, Wes), I care about the ability to play basketball. And you should too.

"Slow to get up the court"? Have you missed PEK beating other team's guards to the rim? I don't even know where are you getting this stuff. Do you even watch games, bro?

He's not like Love as a piss poor defender, fine, but he's certainly nothing to brag about on the defensive end. Did you watch DeAndre Jordan & Griffin out hustle him and shoot over 60% on him while giving up a load of rebounds (offensive rebounds too)?

After watching Rubio excel with Faried, excuse me for wanting someone that can catch & finish most of Rubio's dimes. After awhile, you get sick of watching stonehands and blown layups. Rubio plays better with athletic bigs. Can he still play & make guys like Love & Pek look like stars? Of course, he made Darko look great.

Should we overpay Pek to pair with Love and call it a day? I don't think so. Nothing reeks of mediocre more than overpaying Pek and keeping Love around. That will only leave us with MLE scrub like Courtney Lee left to get.

Not trying to downplay Pek because he's a top 10 center, but some of you act like Pek is a prime Shaq.
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Post#379 » by jfg » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:40 am

The J Rocka wrote:
Should we overpay Pek to pair with Love and call it a day? I don't think so. Nothing reeks of mediocre more than overpaying Pek and keeping Love around. That will only leave us with MLE scrub like Courtney Lee left to get.



Same deal if you keep Pek. Even if he gets signed to somebody else for 12mil the only thing that counts for us is the 5mil that will come off our books. Pair that with Roy's salary and Budinger's minimum and you are getting the same MLE after you sign Pek's replacement. I still think the major parts of Love and Pek's games are way too similar to throw 25 mil at but there really isn't a choice.
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Post#380 » by Klomp » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:40 am

Tirion wrote:Steamer was supposed to provide the shotblocking part.

Right, but you can't play Pek and Steam together though. That's what NP was saying
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