A angry Wiggins is a good Wiggins!

[Klomp]

True but getting Thad Young for a year won't do it. Playing this season out by keeping all our assets and being able to draft a top 5 prospect might put Minny in a position where there is too much talent for FAs to overlook the negatives.

Really? What free agents were considering Philadelphia after all of the asset collection they've done?

[Takingbaconback]

True but getting Thad Young for a year won't do it. Playing this season out by keeping all our assets and being able to draft a top 5 prospect might put Minny in a position where there is too much talent for FAs to overlook the negatives.

Really? What free agents were considering Philadelphia after all of the asset collection they've done?

None but it's going to take great leaps from both these franchises to reach the point where cities like Cleveland becomes an attractive FA destination, which is why Minnesota probably should maximize its assets. Let's say Wolves don't trade for Young. Here's the list of retained assets and players that they will build around.

Rubio/LaVine/Wiggins/Dieng/Bennett/Shabazz/GRIII + Top 5 lottery pick/First round Miami pick/Dubljevic

Wolves still will have Pek, Brewer, and Martin next season with around 15 million in FA. I don't see the logic of trading for T Young. Wolves already are in a fantastic position to make a leap next year with multiple candidates for serious stardom in this league + two very good draft picks in 2015. Thad Young is a short term option, a known commodity that is going to limit the overall talent level of the team down the road.

I also think Rubio may be cut from future plans if he doesn't improve, so it is great to have more options and flexibility in the draft and FA to address whatever holes they need to.

[King Malta]

I think it's important to develop a competitive culture at the club though, even if we don't have a realistic hope of making the playoffs. Realistically, you tank to get a pick which returns a player with the potential of an Andrew Wiggins; someone you can theoretically build you franchise around for years to come, and we've done that. Not only did we get Wiggins but we've also got two other very good young prospects with seemingly high potential in Dieng and Lavine.

I think the best way to go now is to try to win as many games as we can. Tanking for me is a dangerous game if you carry it on too long, and while what's being suggested by some is only really one season of tanking you need to take into account the fact we've already been 10 years without playoffs. Instilling that competitive drive into our young players (and demonstrating to our older pieces like Pek and Rubio that we're trying to build something in the near future here) should be a priority in my opinion. The last thing we want to do is get stuck in an even worse negative cycle than we already are at the moment.

[Klomp]

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[Klomp]

Realistically, you tank to get a pick which returns a player with the potential of an Andrew Wiggins; someone you can theoretically build you franchise around for years to come, and we've done that.

And this is why I think it'd be dumb to tank.

We already will have the type of player that team's tank for. Trying to do so again would be like playing with fire.

[Murphs56]

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Except the fact Kobe didn't want to go there

[Takingbaconback]

Let's say Wolves go 30-52 with Thad Young. Does that mean Wolves have built a winning culture? I think this first year with the promising rookies is a losing season regardless. Let them play loose and free this year and focus on acquiring promising players next year when Wolves have the means to do so in FA and the draft with their 2 first round picks.

Bottom line is that acquiring Thad Young isn't going to bring a winning culture because wolves are going to lose a buttload. I also don't understand how not acquiring T Young is suddenly tanking. That is a huge overreaction, Young is just a mediocre talent who can't shoot outside the paint. It isn't like we are passing on Dirk who can play and win with the young guns for the next 2-3 years.

[big3_8_19_21]

Realistically, you tank to get a pick which returns a player with the potential of an Andrew Wiggins; someone you can theoretically build you franchise around for years to come, and we've done that.

And this is why I think it'd be dumb to tank.

We already will have the type of player that team's tank for. Trying to do so again would be like playing with fire.

Yeah, but man...can you imagine if we got Jahlil Okafor on top of what we have? Rubio, LaVine, Wiggins, Okafor and hopefully one of Bennett or Dubljevic would pan out as a starting PF...that's a dynasty in a couple years. Plus the novelty of having our front court be the last 3 consecutive #1 overall picks!

Obviously I would never advocate tanking before the season even starts, I think that's ridiculous. It's just fun to imagine us assembling a team like that.

[NewWolvesOrder]

Realistically, you tank to get a pick which returns a player with the potential of an Andrew Wiggins; someone you can theoretically build you franchise around for years to come, and we've done that.

And this is why I think it'd be dumb to tank.

We already will have the type of player that team's tank for. Trying to do so again would be like playing with fire.

Yeah, but man...can you imagine if we got Jahlil Okafor on top of what we have? Rubio, LaVine, Wiggins, Okafor and hopefully one of Bennett or Dubljevic would pan out as a starting PF...that's a dynasty in a couple years. Plus the novelty of having our front court be the last 3 consecutive #1 overall picks!

Obviously I would never advocate tanking before the season even starts, I think that's ridiculous. It's just fun to imagine us assembling a team like that.

Yeah, those lottery balls are sure fun as hell, why play/watch basketball? let's press that button on espn lottery draft simulator and jerk off to Jahlil highlight vids on draftexpress

[big3_8_19_21]

Yeah, but man...can you imagine if we got Jahlil Okafor on top of what we have? Rubio, LaVine, Wiggins, Okafor and hopefully one of Bennett or Dubljevic would pan out as a starting PF...that's a dynasty in a couple years. Plus the novelty of having our front court be the last 3 consecutive #1 overall picks!

Obviously I would never advocate tanking before the season even starts, I think that's ridiculous. It's just fun to imagine us assembling a team like that.

Yeah, those lottery balls are sure fun as hell, why play/watch basketball? let's press that button on espn lottery draft simulator and jerk off to Jahlil highlight vids on draftexpress

You're arguing against a point that I didn't make.

You can clearly see in my post that I called the idea of tanking a full season "ridiculous". In case this was somehow unclear, by using the word "ridiculous" that means I am AGAINST the idea of tanking a season. To be AGAINST the idea means that I DON'T want it to happen. Clear? Good.

Now let's continue to the next sentence where I say that it is "just fun" to imagine that roster. Now, this "fun" in "imagining" the roster is essentially what fantasy sports is. In the same way that anyone playing fantasy sports assembles a make-believe super team, I had done the same for the Timberwolves, because I liked the idea of watching the Timberwolves be even better.

So, to tie all of these confusing twists and turns together, what I had essentially done in this post was "imagine" a "fantasy roster" for my favorite team, while maintaining that they should not tank in the hopes to assemble it. I hope this clears things up, buddy!

I hope the jerking off with the DX videos goes well, although I would recommend using porn for that! That's actually what it's made for!

[sya]

Minnesota has a brutal schedule to start the season. I believe Wiggins will be a starter from day 1, my concern is, Flip seems to be in a win now mode, and has too much pride to coach a last placed team. Wolves will certainly have a very bad start, probably lucky to win 3 of first 15. Will Flip be patient enough to stick with Wiggins and the young guns? Or will he decide to suddenly playing his veterans more?

While the wolves fanbase want to see Flip develop and give huge mins to Wiggins and Lavine, I think Flip thinks otherwise and that will be a disappointment. He will continue to play Brewer, Martin several mins, hindering some of the potential of these young guns esp Lavine.

Stat projection for Wiggins:
15ppg, 5 rpg, 2 apg, 1.3 spg, 1.1 bpg, 0.8 3s, 43% FG, 78% FT, 31mpg.

For Lavine I think he will be lucky to get an average of 15mpg to start the year. Hopefully he will be closer to 25 mpg after the all star break when Flip realizes he has no choice but to play the youngsters.

Many coaches who we all thought should ride the young guys have refused to do so even when they were playing for nothing. Philly was one of the few teams that decided they would run with their young guns no matter what