$6.3M TRADE EXCEPTION, what does it mean?

MaxMN · Post #1 » by **MaxMN** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:09 pm

I don't completely understand trade exceptions, what does this mean exactly?

Do you think it means more moves for the Wolves?

Post #2 » by **Klomp** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:12 pm

Essentially, they could trade for a player worth up to 6.3m without sending out any salary.

Most trade exceptions don't get used, though.

MaxMN · Post #3 » by **MaxMN** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:18 pm

Klomp wrote:Essentially, they could trade for a player worth up to 6.3m without sending out any salary.

Most trade exceptions don't get used, though.

Do we have any cap space? We still have to unload JJ and Bud!

Post #4 » by **Klomp** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:24 pm

MaxMN wrote:
Klomp wrote:Essentially, they could trade for a player worth up to 6.3m without sending out any salary.

Most trade exceptions don't get used, though.

Do we have any cap space? We still have to unload JJ and Bud!

Currently, our player salaries put us $6,766,688 over the salary cap.

Dual · Post #5 » by **Dual** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:26 pm

MaxMN wrote:
Klomp wrote:Essentially, they could trade for a player worth up to 6.3m without sending out any salary.

Most trade exceptions don't get used, though.

Do we have any cap space? We still have to unload JJ and Bud!

Then we can trade JJ, Bud & trade exception for a star player in a team that needs cap space this season or the next

Narf · Post #6 » by **Narf** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:29 pm

Dual wrote:
MaxMN wrote:
Klomp wrote:Essentially, they could trade for a player worth up to 6.3m without sending out any salary.

Most trade exceptions don't get used, though.

Do we have any cap space? We still have to unload JJ and Bud!

Then we can trade JJ, Bud & trade exception for a star player in a team that needs cap space this season or the next

You can't combine the trade exception with another player. You can, however, trade a player for a player and the trade exception for a separate player at the same time.

Nitroglycerin · Post #7 » by **Nitroglycerin** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:45 pm

it doesnt expire until August 23,2015 right?

Post #8 » by **Klomp** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:46 pm

Nitroglycerin wrote:it doesnt expire until August 23,2015 right?

Correct.

Nitroglycerin · Post #9 » by **Nitroglycerin** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:56 pm

Klomp wrote:
Nitroglycerin wrote:it doesnt expire until August 23,2015 right?

Correct.

cool. I dont think we'll use it this summer. Only thing to do is to dump JJ

Mikchek · Post #10 » by **Mikchek** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:24 pm

even though we are 6 mill over the cap we aren't at the tax dollar for dollar penalty yet right?

Post #11 » by **Klomp** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:27 pm

Mikchek wrote:even though we are 6 mill over the cap we aren't at the tax dollar for dollar penalty yet right?

Correct. We are still almost $7m below the luxury tax line, with a full roster. No concerns there.

Takingbaconback · Post #12 » by **Takingbaconback** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:59 pm

Very nice asset for the wolves. Love it a lot

gold0259 · Post #13 » by **gold0259** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:53 pm

Can you trade the exception for a future 1st round pick?

ace625214 · Post #14 » by **ace625214** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:04 pm

gold0259 wrote:Can you trade the exception for a future 1st round pick?

Nope.

Also, here is something for everyone to keep in mind: since we used part of the MLE to sign Mo Williams, we are committing to being an over-the-cap team for this season. That doesn't mean we can't go under the salary cap, but it means we cannot sign a player using cap space until next season. Fortunately, I don't see any way we end up with a bunch of cap to sign anyone worthwhile, and there aren't really any prize FAs left anyway.

gold0259 · Post #15 » by **gold0259** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:07 pm

Is the general opinion here just to get rid of JJ barea? Like get rid of him for 2nd round draft picks, or is there hope he's worth more? Or just get him off the squad?

wolfcat · Post #16 » by **wolfcat** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:09 pm

gold0259 wrote:Is the general opinion here just to get rid of JJ barea? Like get rid of him for 2nd round draft picks, or is there hope he's worth more? Or just get him off the squad?

As an expiring he should be worth more. We may have to hold on till the trade deadline to get what we should for him.

Note30 · Post #17 » by **Note30** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:11 pm

send him to the mavs. maybe carlisle can use him properly a second time.

Esohny · Post #18 » by **Esohny** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:12 pm

ace625214 wrote:
gold0259 wrote:Can you trade the exception for a future 1st round pick?

Nope.

Also, here is something for everyone to keep in mind: since we used part of the MLE to sign Mo Williams, we are committing to being an over-the-cap team for this season. That doesn't mean we can't go under the salary cap, but it means we cannot sign a player using cap space until next season. Fortunately, I don't see any way we end up with a bunch of cap to sign anyone worthwhile, and there aren't really any prize FAs left anyway.

Pretty sure that the Wolves could use it to absorb a player in a salary dump and could receive a pick at the same time as payment though.

Takingbaconback · Post #19 » by **Takingbaconback** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:12 pm

gold0259 wrote:Is the general opinion here just to get rid of JJ barea? Like get rid of him for 2nd round draft picks, or is there hope he's worth more? Or just get him off the squad?

Either pair him up with a wing to match salary/value in a trade or maybe send him over to Lakers for their 2nd round pick?

gold0259 · Post #20 » by **gold0259** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:17 pm

Which Wing