Injury Watch Thread

[Klomp]

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[AQuintus]

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If Martin is out, hopefully that means extended minutes at SG for LaVine with Brown handling backup PG.

[minimus]

Guys, do you think that Pek buyout is possible? I mean DET, MIL, PHI used this option to move forward. Pek is not bad person, but it might be alternative for us. Maybe they can agree on reducing amount. Sounds crazy, but I am just wondering if it makes sense.

[Worm Guts]

Guys, do you think that Pek buyout is possible? I mean DET, MIL, PHI used this option to move forward. Pek is not bad person, but it might be alternative for us. Maybe they can agree on reducing amount. Sounds crazy, but I am just wondering if it makes sense.

There's no reason to. You pay the same amount and it still counts against the salary cap. And the thing is that Pek is still useful to this team when he plays, he's still our best center.

[Sothron]

I don't want to buy Pek out. I want to trade him for whatever we can get.

[Merc_Porto]

You pay the same amount and it still counts against the salary cap.

I didn't know that.
Is this really true ?

(The part of still counting for the salary cap)

[Worm Guts]

You pay the same amount and it still counts against the salary cap.

I didn't know that.
Is this really true ?

(The part of still counting for the salary cap)

It's true. If you buy him out, it still counts against the cap. I think there's something called the stretch provision where you can pay a smaller amount over a longer period of time, but I'm not sure about that.

[Feilong]

When you buyout someone you pay him after an agreement a portion of the guaranteed money left in his contract.
This way team saves money, if e.g both parties agree to 80% of the total amount. Then he becomes free agent.
But 100% of his contract still counts towards salary cap.
What you can do is use the stretch provision. e.g. if player has 2 more years of 10M/Y, you can stretch to count on your salary cap 4 years of 5M each year.

[Merc_Porto]

Got it.

Thanks Feilong and Worm Guts

[Worm Guts]

The team only pays less if the player agrees to take less, which they usually don't. The only reason they would is if they can make it up through free agency.

[Klomp]

The stretch provision doesn't really make sense for Pekovic, IMO.

He's owed 35.8m over the final three years of his deal. Using the stretch provision would keep him on the books at roughly $5.1m per year through the 2021-22 season (twice the number of years remaining on his contract, plus one).

[Feilong]

The team only pays less if the player agrees to take less, which they usually don't. The only reason they would is if they can make it up through free agency.

As far as i know it is the opposite.
Almost always players agree to take less.
This way, team saves money, otherwise they lose a player for only a roster spot. And on the other hand player becomes a free agent so he can sign for a playoff team or escape a bad situation.

e.g.

Milwaukee Bucks forward Larry Sanders has walked away from basketball after five years in the league, agreeing to a buy-out with the team after the trade deadline.

Sanders had three years remaining on a US$44-million contract. He left around $21 million on the table in the buyout.

[Merc_Porto]

The stretch provision doesn't really make sense for Pekovic, IMO.

He's owed 35.8m over the final three years of his deal. Using the stretch provision would keep him on the books at roughly $5.1m per year through the 2021-22 season (twice the number of years remaining on his contract, plus one).

Agree, doesn´t make sense to buyout Pek then.

If there is no alternative (Trade)
The thing is. We really need to put Pekovic on limited minutes then. (12-18)
I know it´s dificult to understand because we are paying big buckets to the guy. But...

He is with major problems with his ankles. This is the true.
Doesnt make sense Pekovic play +25 minutes per game. (We already know its too much)

[Worm Guts]

The team only pays less if the player agrees to take less, which they usually don't. The only reason they would is if they can make it up through free agency.

As far as i know it is the opposite.
Almost always players agree to take less.
This way, team saves money, otherwise they lose a player for only a roster spot. And on the other hand player becomes a free agent so he can sign for a playoff team or escape a bad situation.

e.g.

Milwaukee Bucks forward Larry Sanders has walked away from basketball after five years in the league, agreeing to a buy-out with the team after the trade deadline.

Sanders had three years remaining on a US$44-million contract. He left around $21 million on the table in the buyout.

It depends on the situation I guess, whether the player wants out more or the team wants him gone more. Josh Smith didn't give up anything.

[Feilong]

Got it.

Thanks Feilong and Worm Guts

Read this
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-a ... a-players/

[Klomp]

The team only pays less if the player agrees to take less, which they usually don't. The only reason they would is if they can make it up through free agency.

As far as i know it is the opposite.
Almost always players agree to take less.
This way, team saves money, otherwise they lose a player for only a roster spot. And on the other hand player becomes a free agent so he can sign for a playoff team or escape a bad situation.

e.g.

Milwaukee Bucks forward Larry Sanders has walked away from basketball after five years in the league, agreeing to a buy-out with the team after the trade deadline.

Sanders had three years remaining on a US$44-million contract. He left around $21 million on the table in the buyout.

I would think Larry Sanders is pretty far from the norm.

[Klomp]

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[C.lupus]

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This team...

[C.lupus]

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[Klomp]

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