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Re: Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#41 » by Foye » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:39 pm

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Klomp wrote:At this point, I think my 4th option might be Stanley Johnson. Would give us a lot of versatility on the perimeter with a solid 5-man rotation.

Rubio / LaVine
Wiggins / LaVine
Johnson / Muhammad

Trade Martin to fill the hole at center


We are not going to get a solid center for Martin alone. :dontknow:


Yes, probably We won't be able to get an established star or decent veteran, but I will be okay if Flip can get 1st round pick or rookie a-la Mitch McGary. I think it is not coincidence that Martin is getting all these shots while we are tanking. His stats line looks attractive.


We have Dieng and Pekovic. Maybe even Hamilton. A rookie C only makes sense if he's a top talent.

Okafor/Towns/WCS fit the bill. I'm not into the NCAA but I doubt there will be many top Cs available with a later pick. :dontknow:
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Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#42 » by C.lupus » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:39 pm

Klomp wrote:At this point, I think my 4th option might be Stanley Johnson. Would give us a lot of versatility on the perimeter with a solid 5-man rotation.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLfvuYSbLQM[/youtube]

Rubio / LaVine
Wiggins / LaVine
Johnson / Muhammad

Trade Martin to fill the hole at center

I like Johnson. Not sure if I like him at #4 but it's pretty close.

for me, right now it is:
3. Russell
4. Probably one of Porzingis, Johnson, or Cauley-Stein
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Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#43 » by Mattya » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:42 pm

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Klomp wrote:At this point, I think my 4th option might be Stanley Johnson. Would give us a lot of versatility on the perimeter with a solid 5-man rotation.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLfvuYSbLQM[/youtube]

Rubio / LaVine
Wiggins / LaVine
Johnson / Muhammad

Trade Martin to fill the hole at center

I like Johnson. Not sure if I like him at #4 but it's pretty close.

for me, right now it is:
3. Russell
4. Probably one of Porzingis, Johnson, or Cauley-Stein


I'm guessing you mean?

1-3: Towns, Okafor, or Russell
4:Mudiay
5:Porzingis, Johnson, WCS
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Re: Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#44 » by Mattya » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:45 pm

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We are not going to get a solid center for Martin alone. :dontknow:


Yes, probably We won't be able to get an established star or decent veteran, but I will be okay if Flip can get 1st round pick or rookie a-la Mitch McGary. I think it is not coincidence that Martin is getting all these shots while we are tanking. His stats line looks attractive.


We have Dieng and Pekovic. Maybe even Hamilton. A rookie C only makes sense if he's a top talent.

Okafor/Towns/WCS fit the bill. I'm not into the NCAA but I doubt there will be many top Cs available with a later pick. :dontknow:


Personally I would take Kaminsky if we did have a pick in the teens.
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Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#45 » by C.lupus » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:46 pm

No, I meant:
1. Towns
2. Okafor
3. Russell
4. Porzingis, Johnson, WCS
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Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#46 » by Mattya » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:53 pm

C.lupus wrote:No, I meant:
1. Towns
2. Okafor
3. Russell
4. Porzingis, Johnson, WCS


I think we would have to at least consider Mudiay, at least for a trade possibility and value. I mean if you can get one of those guys you have at 4 and an asset you have to do it.
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Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#47 » by C.lupus » Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:23 pm

Well, sure, if we could trade him for one of them plus an asset, obviously I'd do that. I was just saying who I want. I can't see any reason to draft and keep Mudiay for this team with a top 5 pick, though.
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Re: Re: Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#48 » by minimus » Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:02 pm

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minimus wrote:
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We are not going to get a solid center for Martin alone. :dontknow:


Yes, probably We won't be able to get an established star or decent veteran, but I will be okay if Flip can get 1st round pick or rookie a-la Mitch McGary. I think it is not coincidence that Martin is getting all these shots while we are tanking. His stats line looks attractive.


We have Dieng and Pekovic. Maybe even Hamilton. A rookie C only makes sense if he's a top talent.

Okafor/Towns/WCS fit the bill. I'm not into the NCAA but I doubt there will be many top Cs available with a later pick. :dontknow:

Upshaw?
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Re: Re: Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#49 » by Mattya » Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:29 pm

minimus wrote:
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minimus wrote:
Yes, probably We won't be able to get an established star or decent veteran, but I will be okay if Flip can get 1st round pick or rookie a-la Mitch McGary. I think it is not coincidence that Martin is getting all these shots while we are tanking. His stats line looks attractive.


We have Dieng and Pekovic. Maybe even Hamilton. A rookie C only makes sense if he's a top talent.

Okafor/Towns/WCS fit the bill. I'm not into the NCAA but I doubt there will be many top Cs available with a later pick. :dontknow:

Upshaw?


Upshaw is likely a second round pick
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Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#50 » by Krapinsky » Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:58 pm

Klomp wrote:At this point, I think my 4th option might be Stanley Johnson. Would give us a lot of versatility on the perimeter with a solid 5-man rotation.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLfvuYSbLQM[/youtube]

Rubio / LaVine
Wiggins / LaVine
Johnson / Muhammad

Trade Martin to fill the hole at center


Can't see Johnson starting before Muhammad any time soon. Rookies have a steep learning curve.
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Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#51 » by jmoy » Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:24 pm

Am I the only one who would lean towards taking Mudiay at #4 if Russel was gone at #3? I am a big Rubio fan but this is his 4th season and he has only once played more then 57 games and has not even shot above 40% yet, and has actually shot worse this year then ever before. No matter the contract he was given, I just don't think we write off PG as a need until Rubio proves he can shoot and stay healthy.
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Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#52 » by SO_MONEY » Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:34 pm

Russell
Mudiay
Johnson

Other.

It is picks 3-5 I am not worrying about. Getting pick #6 would be where things get bogged down in options.
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Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#53 » by Klomp » Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:35 pm

Krapinsky wrote:Can't see Johnson starting before Muhammad any time soon. Rookies have a steep learning curve.

And Muhammad is a one-trick pony
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Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#54 » by Krapinsky » Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:44 pm

Klomp wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:Can't see Johnson starting before Muhammad any time soon. Rookies have a steep learning curve.

And Muhammad is a one-trick pony


Johnson is a variable unknown. The last UA Wildcat we drafted at the top of the lottery was once plugged to be our opening day starting SF. How'd that workout?
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Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#55 » by SO_MONEY » Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:54 pm

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Krapinsky wrote:Can't see Johnson starting before Muhammad any time soon. Rookies have a steep learning curve.

And Muhammad is a one-trick pony


Johnson is a variable unknown. The last UA Wildcat we drafted at the top of the lottery was once plugged to be our opening day starting SF. How'd that workout?


Never was a SF.

I personally didn't like him even as a PF, Johnson clearly is WAY better. He can actually play defense, dribble and pass. I would even say if you were to play Johnson at PF he is still better than any projection Williams would have been, in other words Johnson would go #2 in that draft. He is the much better player at this stage. I might take him over Mudiay for the Wolves, though that is up in the air.

At #6 you would start looking at players like WCS et al.

Johnson and WCS both could start due to defense.
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Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#56 » by Klomp » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:05 pm

Krapinsky wrote:The last UA Wildcat we drafted at the top of the lottery was once plugged to be our opening day starting SF. How'd that workout?

That's your argument?

Our last top-3 pick from Duke was Christian Laettner. Should that stop us from drafting Jahlil Okafor and starting him day one?
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Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#57 » by Mattya » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:05 pm

SO_MONEY wrote:Russell
Mudiay
Johnson

Other.

It is picks 3-5 I am not worrying about. Getting pick #6 would be where things get bogged down in options.


As long as we stay in this number 2 spot by the end of the year the most we could fall is to the 5th pick.

1-3: Any of Towns, Okafor, then Russell.
4:Mudiay to trade back and grab an additional asset.
5:Porzingis, then Johnson
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Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#58 » by Krapinsky » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:11 pm

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Krapinsky wrote:The last UA Wildcat we drafted at the top of the lottery was once plugged to be our opening day starting SF. How'd that workout?

That's your argument?

Our last top-3 pick from Duke was Christian Laettner. Should that stop us from drafting Jahlil Okafor and starting him day one?


Okafor is obviously a different caliber of player than Johnson.

Bazzy has worked hard and has improved his game. It would be a slap in the face to start a rookie over him IMO unless the rookie is someone like a Wiggins or Okafor type talent.
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Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#59 » by Klomp » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:19 pm

Krapinsky wrote:Bazzy has worked hard and has improved his game. It would be a slap in the face to start a rookie over him IMO unless the rookie is someone like a Wiggins or Okafor type talent.

I disagree.

Bazz may have improved his game, but I don't think he's expanded it enough to be an everyday starter. His game still relies heavily on left box post-ups and crashing the glass.
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Re: Your #3, #4 pick scenerios 

Post#60 » by SO_MONEY » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:55 pm

Mattya wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:Russell
Mudiay
Johnson

Other.

It is picks 3-5 I am not worrying about. Getting pick #6 would be where things get bogged down in options.


As long as we stay in this number 2 spot by the end of the year the most we could fall is to the 5th pick.

1-3: Any of Towns, Okafor, then Russell.
4:Mudiay to trade back and grab an additional asset.
5:Porzingis, then Johnson


I think you have a tier of Okafor, Russell, Towns and Mudiay. Then Johnson. And Johnson if he has a good tourney/workout/interviews may work his way into that tier. You NEED to at the very least walk away with Johnson or Mudiay. You take the best high end talent you can get and if you trade you do not drop below that point. Anyone past Johnson is the debate...WCS, Porzingis...other? But I think the top 5 picks in this draft is pretty set in one order or another.

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