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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#41 » by C.lupus » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:56 pm

guest81 wrote:If you sign a guy now, it's not like he's going to play at all. The rotation is pretty much set. You just need a guy for garbage time

There are some frontcourt minutes to be had with KG, Pek, and Belly all out. No wing/guard minutes, though.
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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#42 » by Worm Guts » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:01 pm

lobishome wrote:Miller had some minutes and Tyus zero. When Smitch realized of the same which everybody had realized some months ago, the backup role went for Miller, not for Tyus and only after a couple of "good" games of Tyus the officed toke the decision of give him the backup role.

And if we have "concern for win"... why Lavine starts at PG only the pair games?

Really I can't understand this El Alamo battle defending Smitch and the office when we must be discussing about if would be better hang them by the nipples or by the bollocks.


It has nothing to do with defending Smitch. I don't even understand why you think I am. Saunders signed Miller probably to be the full time backup, Mitchell never played him that way.
I don't care if you criticize Mitchell's rotations, but Mitchell wasn't the one who decided to sign Miller either. Two different people with different ideas on how to play Miller.
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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#43 » by shangrila » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:03 pm

guest81 wrote:If you sign a guy now, it's not like he's going to play at all. The rotation is pretty much set. You just need a guy for garbage time

I disagree, at least when it comes to bigs. We've currently got 3 healthy players at PF/C (Towns, Dieng and Payne). We need all the help we can get there.
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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#44 » by lobishome » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:19 pm

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It has nothing to do with defending Smitch. I don't even understand why you think I am. Saunders signed Miller probably to be the full time backup, Mitchell never played him that way.
I don't care if you criticize Mitchell's rotations, but Mitchell wasn't the one who decided to sign Miller either. Two different people with different ideas on how to play Miller.


Was Mitchell's responsability, nooooooo, was Flip's responsability, noooooooo, was Newton's responsability, .. thanksfully this season is ending and the next one we'll have somebody for to crap all over him, as the rest of the teams of the civilized world.
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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#45 » by C.lupus » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:26 pm

Sometimes I have no idea how lobishome's brain is wired.
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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#46 » by Worm Guts » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:28 pm

lobishome wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:
It has nothing to do with defending Smitch. I don't even understand why you think I am. Saunders signed Miller probably to be the full time backup, Mitchell never played him that way.
I don't care if you criticize Mitchell's rotations, but Mitchell wasn't the one who decided to sign Miller either. Two different people with different ideas on how to play Miller.


Was Mitchell's responsability, nooooooo, was Flip's responsability, noooooooo, was Newton's responsability, .. thanksfully this season is ending and the next one we'll have somebody for to crap all over him, as the rest of the teams of the civilized world.


Flip died and that changed things, that shouldn't be hard to understand. Anyway, we're talking about buying out someone on a vet minimum contract. It's hardly a problem.
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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#47 » by lobishome » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:41 pm

Worm Guts wrote:
lobishome wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:
It has nothing to do with defending Smitch. I don't even understand why you think I am. Saunders signed Miller probably to be the full time backup, Mitchell never played him that way.
I don't care if you criticize Mitchell's rotations, but Mitchell wasn't the one who decided to sign Miller either. Two different people with different ideas on how to play Miller.


Was Mitchell's responsability, nooooooo, was Flip's responsability, noooooooo, was Newton's responsability, .. thanksfully this season is ending and the next one we'll have somebody for to crap all over him, as the rest of the teams of the civilized world.


Flip died and that changed things, that shouldn't be hard to understand.


"Flip died" ... we always end in the same point ... perhaps it's better to stop this discussion here.
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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#48 » by shrink » Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:33 pm

Besides the roster spot to audition young guys on 10-day contracts, the buy out is also good for our image. As we approach a free agency unlike any before it, with 25 teams with cap space and free agents holding tremendous leverage on the teams they can choose, it helps to demonstrate that the Wolves will make moves to help an individual player with his career goals.
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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#49 » by guest81 » Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:56 pm

shrink wrote:Besides the roster spot to audition young guys on 10-day contracts, the buy out is also good for our image. As we approach a free agency unlike any before it, with 25 teams with cap space and free agents holding tremendous leverage on the teams they can choose, it helps to demonstrate that the Wolves will make moves to help an individual player with his career goals.


Sign with us, because when we start to tank, we'll let you go to a playoff team!. Yea I'm sure free agents are salivating over that
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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#50 » by Calinks » Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:40 pm

A shrink cameo? This thread has it all.
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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#51 » by shrink » Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:57 pm

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shrink wrote:Besides the roster spot to audition young guys on 10-day contracts, the buy out is also good for our image. As we approach a free agency unlike any before it, with 25 teams with cap space and free agents holding tremendous leverage on the teams they can choose, it helps to demonstrate that the Wolves will make moves to help an individual player with his career goals.


Sign with us, because when we start to tank, we'll let you go to a playoff team!. Yea I'm sure free agents are salivating over that


:lol:

Seriously though, I think we'd all rather work for an employer that takes into account our own career goals and development, and this is probably magnified in the NBA. Those guys have short careers and need to make every year count, and once they sign with an NBA team, it's very difficult to change jobs without their employer's consent!

I think most anything we can do to improve the way our city looks to free agents, I'm in favor of it.
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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#52 » by Devilzsidewalk » Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:22 pm

C.lupus wrote:Sometimes I have no idea how lobishome's brain is wired.


I had the exact same problem with a 3 way switch in my old house - none of the cables were color coded so I didn't know which ones were the traveler wires.
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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#53 » by C.lupus » Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:37 pm

shangrila wrote:Whether or not Tyus is "ready" is irrelevant. He needs minutes if he's either going to develop or we see what we have in him. Either way this season is lost so there's no harm in making him the backup.

Personally I'd go with Stokes and Kilpatrick. A bruiser PF and a 40%+ shooter fills both our needs. And if neither works out we move on, simple and easy.

Looks like Kilpatrick is out.
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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#54 » by shangrila » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:45 pm

C.lupus wrote:
shangrila wrote:Whether or not Tyus is "ready" is irrelevant. He needs minutes if he's either going to develop or we see what we have in him. Either way this season is lost so there's no harm in making him the backup.

Personally I'd go with Stokes and Kilpatrick. A bruiser PF and a 40%+ shooter fills both our needs. And if neither works out we move on, simple and easy.

Looks like Kilpatrick is out.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/703331832268349441[/tweet]

Well...crap.

Orlando Johnson then.
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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#55 » by Saltine » Sat Feb 27, 2016 12:02 am

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Saltine wrote:Jarnell Stokes would be nice. There isn't much in the way of quality backup PG's in the Dleague, Lorenzo Brown was an all star down there...


I might be mistaken but was Stokes involved in some incidents? He is a bruiser that we need, but probable he will be liability against quick PF... I woud give MalcolmThomas a chance he was scouted by SAS. Also I still believe that LoBro a good player and a good fit here. I don't think that we have room for high volume scorer tho

One little incident, he and a teammate got in a fight, during a game. That's about it... this may be a useful quality with Payne on our Bench. :nod:
NEW YORK, January 29, 2015 – The NBA Development League today announced that Iowa Energy guard Kalin Lucas has been suspended three games and forward Jarnell Stokes has been suspended two games for fighting with each other on the team’s bench.

The incident, for which both players were ejected, occurred with 2:29 remaining in the third quarter of Iowa’s 124-120 victory over the Rio Grande Valley Vipers on Jan. 27.

http://dleague.nba.com/news/iowa-energys-kalin-lucas-and-jarnell-stokes-suspended-for-fighting-012915/
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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#56 » by lobishome » Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:10 pm

C.lupus wrote:Sometimes I have no idea how lobishome's brain is wired.

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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#57 » by Killboard » Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:58 pm

shangrila wrote:
C.lupus wrote:
shangrila wrote:Whether or not Tyus is "ready" is irrelevant. He needs minutes if he's either going to develop or we see what we have in him. Either way this season is lost so there's no harm in making him the backup.

Personally I'd go with Stokes and Kilpatrick. A bruiser PF and a 40%+ shooter fills both our needs. And if neither works out we move on, simple and easy.

Looks like Kilpatrick is out.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/703331832268349441[/tweet]

Well...crap.

Orlando Johnson then.


I woulnt understand why go with a guard. We have a hole in the frontcourt and Dieng is playing 40+ minutes everynight.

I dont understand why we are not bringing one already. Either Stokes for upside or J. Thompson for veteran presence but we need someone as quick as possible.
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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#58 » by Killboard » Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:50 pm

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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#59 » by C.lupus » Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:07 pm

Good for him. I was hoping he'd sign with a contender. I was going to have trouble rooting for him if he signed with the Clippers.
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Re: Miller getting bought out 

Post#60 » by southern wolf » Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:15 am

Miller to the Spurs is a match made in heaven. He'll fit in well there.

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