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Post#101 » by PuppyBite » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:11 am

Andrew Bogut would be a great veteran influence. What does Dallas need him for? Great for playoff push or a tryout to sign him for a couple more seasons. It seems installing the system takes precedence over change for change sake. Most of the roster is still in the development stage of their careers.
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Post#102 » by trevor0333 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:53 pm

I really like the idea of JaMychal Green on this roster. What kind of deal would it take to keep Memphis from matching?
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Post#103 » by Crazy-Canuck » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:17 pm

Thibs is going to max out Taj Gibson.
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Post#104 » by Klomp » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:25 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Thibs is going to max out Taj Gibson.

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Post#105 » by Movics » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:00 am

Would you guys go after Ilyasova as an addition to our bench? Basically an ugraded Blejica when it comes to shooting and rebounding. I don't see a better big man on the market besides Griffin and Millsap who would also consider joining us.
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Post#106 » by Mattya » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:55 pm

I'm interested to see how teams approach the salary cap this summer when it comes to a lot of the free agents we have discussed here.

-The Raptors have a lot of free agents to resign this summer. Kyle Lowry, Patrick Patterson, Serge Ibaka, and P.J. Tucker all need to be resigned. I would guess the are going to resign Kyle Lowry and Serge Ibaka and then either Patrick Patterson or P.J. Tucker. I see no way they can keep them all.

-The Thunder are in a similar spot with Taj Gibson and Andre Roberson. They were rumored to be looking at trades for Andre Roberson, so maybe that is a sign that they don't intend to match offers for him or that it wouldn't take much for a sign and trade.

-Nikola Mirotic doesn't seem to be a priority for the Bulls.

-Cleveland is already way up there in salaries and still needs to resign Korver.
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Post#107 » by breatnach » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:04 pm

What are your thoughts on Otto Porter? He seems like he'd fit nicely at the 3 next to either Wiggins/LaVine playing the 2.

There's a thread on the GB, where a lot of people think Washington would not match a near-max offer. Seeings how we'll have plenty of cap space and our only big non-rookie contract (Rubio) will expire before Towns kicks in, I wouldn't mind throwing some money at him.

If you had two scorers in Towns and Wiggins/LaVine (I think one will need to be traded) and then a 3&D stud like Porter you could probably round out the lineup with nearly any kind of PG (like Rubio) and a defensive PF (perhaps even Dieng?) and make some noise.
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Post#108 » by Merc_Porto » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:13 pm

breatnach wrote:What are your thoughts on Otto Porter? He seems like he'd fit nicely at the 3 next to either Wiggins/LaVine playing the 2.

There's a thread on the GB, where a lot of people think Washington would not match a near-max offer. Seeings how we'll have plenty of cap space and our only big non-rookie contract (Rubio) will expire before Towns kicks in, I wouldn't mind throwing some money at him.

If you had two scorers in Towns and Wiggins/LaVine (I think one will need to be traded) and then a 3&D stud like Porter you could probably round out the lineup with nearly any kind of PG (like Rubio) and a defensive PF (perhaps even Dieng?) and make some noise.


He would be perfect for this team, probably top-3 between 3&D guys in this league.

But there is no way the Wizards don't give him the max.
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Post#109 » by fattymcgee » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:21 pm

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breatnach wrote:What are your thoughts on Otto Porter? He seems like he'd fit nicely at the 3 next to either Wiggins/LaVine playing the 2.

There's a thread on the GB, where a lot of people think Washington would not match a near-max offer. Seeings how we'll have plenty of cap space and our only big non-rookie contract (Rubio) will expire before Towns kicks in, I wouldn't mind throwing some money at him.

If you had two scorers in Towns and Wiggins/LaVine (I think one will need to be traded) and then a 3&D stud like Porter you could probably round out the lineup with nearly any kind of PG (like Rubio) and a defensive PF (perhaps even Dieng?) and make some noise.


He would be perfect for this team, probably top-3 between 3&D guys in this league.

But there is no way the Wizards don't give him the max.


If he is just a 3&D guy, why would anyone give him the max?
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Post#110 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:32 pm

Porter is getting the max. While we are at it, kcp will also get the max.

3 and D wings aren't easy to find.
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Post#111 » by Mattya » Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:17 pm

If Washington isn't matching a max offer for Otto Porter we better be all over that. I bet they will though.
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Post#112 » by Mattya » Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:17 pm

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breatnach wrote:What are your thoughts on Otto Porter? He seems like he'd fit nicely at the 3 next to either Wiggins/LaVine playing the 2.

There's a thread on the GB, where a lot of people think Washington would not match a near-max offer. Seeings how we'll have plenty of cap space and our only big non-rookie contract (Rubio) will expire before Towns kicks in, I wouldn't mind throwing some money at him.

If you had two scorers in Towns and Wiggins/LaVine (I think one will need to be traded) and then a 3&D stud like Porter you could probably round out the lineup with nearly any kind of PG (like Rubio) and a defensive PF (perhaps even Dieng?) and make some noise.


He would be perfect for this team, probably top-3 between 3&D guys in this league.

But there is no way the Wizards don't give him the max.


If he is just a 3&D guy, why would anyone give him the max?


Those types of players are very rare.
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Post#113 » by Krapinsky » Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:03 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Porter is getting the max. While we are at it, kcp will also get the max.

3 and D wings aren't easy to find.


I don't think either of those guys will get the max. We'll see.

That's precisely how you become a treadmill team.
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Post#114 » by LordBaldric » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:33 pm

Handing out max contracts to the Otto Porters of the world isn't the way to become a contender.
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Post#115 » by Mattya » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:43 pm

A small forward not near his prime averaging 45% from outside the arc, with a 63% eFG, rebounds and defends isn't worth the max?
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Post#116 » by Klomp » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:53 pm

Mattya wrote:A small forward not near his prime averaging 45% from outside the arc, with a 63% eFG, rebounds and defends isn't worth the max?

Sure, if you think his league-leading 129 ORtg is sustainable, by all means....
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Post#117 » by Mattya » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:58 pm

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Mattya wrote:A small forward not near his prime averaging 45% from outside the arc, with a 63% eFG, rebounds and defends isn't worth the max?

Sure, if you think his league-leading 129 ORtg is sustainable, by all means....


He doesn't have to have a ORtg that high to be worth a max contract.

Career 40% outside shooter. 45% this season in 57 games on a good amount of attempts. Improved his accuracy inside the arc as well.

For the people ready to give Zach LaVine 20+ million per season. I'm confused as to why Otto Porter wouldn't also get them same if not more.
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Post#118 » by Klomp » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:01 pm

Mattya wrote:For the people ready to give Zach LaVine 20+ million per season. I'm confused as to why Otto Porter wouldn't also get them same if not more.

Because we already have Zach LaVine and Otto Porter would be a fourth max/near-max contract in the next two years.
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Post#119 » by Mattya » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:01 pm

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Mattya wrote:For the people ready to give Zach LaVine 20+ million per season. I'm confused as to why Otto Porter wouldn't also get them same if not more.

Because we already have Zach LaVine and Otto Porter would be a fourth max/near-max contract in the next two years.


Obviously you wouldn't be keeping them all.
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Post#120 » by Krapinsky » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:25 pm

Mattya wrote:A small forward not near his prime averaging 45% from outside the arc, with a 63% eFG, rebounds and defends isn't worth the max?


I would say that would be like the Orlando Magic handing Rashard Lewis the max.
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