Memphis Rumor... (Interested?)

Post #1 » by **Klomp** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:31 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008 ... aft-080623

Even stronger are rumors that the Grizzlies are talking to a number of teams, including the Knicks, Blazers and Suns, about deals that would send the No. 5 pick to whomever is willing to take Brian Cardinal's awful contract (2 years, $13 million left).

Would you guys be interested in moving down two slots to shave a year off Jaric's deal? The deal would be 3/Jaric for 5/Cardinal. Interested?

PeeDee · Post #2 » by **PeeDee** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:37 pm

How about we just take on the contract and get the pick without moving down?! :thumbsup:

Tekkenlaw · Post #3 » by **Tekkenlaw** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:39 pm

I wouldn't trade out of the top 3 in this draft to cut salary, especially in a draft now considered 3 deep.

Could it be had without giving up the #3? They're talking to teams with the 13th and 15th pick. The Heat pick should be in that range.

IcemanMN · Post #4 » by **IcemanMN** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:41 pm

I like Jaric better than Cardinal, and #3 better than #5, so no.

dunkonu21 · Post #5 » by **dunkonu21** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:42 pm

Even tho Cardinal has one year less on his contract, it is still getting in the way of the 2009 off-season where we're looking for a marquee free agent, so this doesn't even help us very much. Plus, Jaric is a better player.

Winter Wonder · Post #6 » by **Winter Wonder** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:44 pm

Trade ID
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Minnesota Trade Breakdown

Incoming Players
Brian Cardinal
6-8 SF / PF from Purdue
3.4 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 11.9 minutes
2008 #5 Pick

Outgoing Players
Greg Buckner
6-4 SG / SF from Clemson
4.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.3 apg in 16.8 minutes
Rashad McCants
6-4 SG from North Carolina
14.8 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.2 apg in 26.9 minutes
2008 #31 Pick

Memphis Trade Breakdown

Incoming Players
Greg Buckner
6-4 SG / SF from Clemson
4.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.3 apg in 16.8 minutes
Rashad McCants
6-4 SG from North Carolina
14.8 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.2 apg in 26.9 minutes
2008 #31 Pick

Outgoing Players
Brian Cardinal
6-8 SF / PF from Purdue
3.4 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 11.9 minutes
2008 #5 Pick

NO WAY Memphis does it but, this is the best "get out of cardinal's contract" deal we can give them.
Two expirings, one of which a decent young SG prospect and our best second rounder.

As for the trade down proposed, I would not do it due to thinking the #3 has way more value than shaving a single year of semi productive for totally non productive.

Post #7 » by **Basti** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:55 pm

no. as many have said, we do not use our pick to get rid of salary unless it is an expiring maybe...

4ho5ive · Post #8 » by **4ho5ive** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:37 pm

I would think the idea would be to pick up the #5 without the use of the #3. The article says they are looking to dump Cardinal with the #5, not move up from #5. McCants is probably not of much use to them as they have a glut at the guard/wings. Jaric probably isnt enough to get them to deal the #5 either. Im not sure what else we could offer.

deeney0 · Post #9 » by **deeney0** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:12 pm

I'm not interested in that pack, but something like Walker for Cardinal+5 sounds loverly.

4ho5ive · Post #10 » by **4ho5ive** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:16 pm

I dont think that works financially. Memphis would have to throw in something to make the salaries match.

Post #11 » by **TheFranchise21** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:19 pm

I know we're in cost cutting mode right now, but we certainly wouldn't do something that desperate in order to shave some contract money.

Child of Wonder · Post #12 » by **Child of Wonder** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:30 pm

Offer them Walker and Miami's protected 1st for Cardinal, Crittenton, and #5. Then draft Love.

Foye/Telfair
Mayo/McCants
Gomes/Brewer
Jefferson/Richard
Love/Madsen/#31/#34

Offer a contract to a young center like Diop and start playing all these young players big minutes to develop them together.

Winter Wonder · Post #13 » by **Winter Wonder** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:34 pm

Ack!

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ NOT my child! Wasn't there. Didn't do it.........

Dang Tequila!

bgassassin · Post #14 » by **bgassassin** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:18 pm

1. Wallace shot this rumor down.

2. It would be a move to cut costs, so why would we even take Jaric's contract?

Child of Wonder · Post #15 » by **Child of Wonder** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:20 pm

Winter Wonder wrote:Ack!

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ NOT my child! Wasn't there. Didn't do it.........

Dang Tequila!

Name has nothing to do with you. I've used this SN since 1999.

karch34 · Post #16 » by **karch34** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:06 pm

4ho5ive wrote:I would think the idea would be to pick up the #5 without the use of the #3. The article says they are looking to dump Cardinal with the #5, not move up from #5. McCants is probably not of much use to them as they have a glut at the guard/wings. Jaric probably isnt enough to get them to deal the #5 either. Im not sure what else we could offer.

Good points. I don't read it as using Cardinal to move up from #5, I read it like the supposed Knicks offer of #6 if you take Randolph or Curry.

I'd trade Buckner and McCants for Cardinal and #5 in a heartbeat. Then draft Mayo at #3 and anybody not named Love at #5.

shrink · Post #17 » by **shrink** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:20 am

I understand MEM trying to dump salary, but Brian Cardinal's only got two years left ($6.3, $6.75). so I don't think his contract is really bad enough to justify trading the #5. Are they maybe looking for a TPE?

If it is available, I'd be willing to offer any of our rebuilding pieces if it wasn't a trade up deal. I'd offer McCants + Buckner (exp) + 2009 MIA Pick + 2009 BOS Pick.

.. and you knows I loves me the MIA pick.

Tekkenlaw · Post #18 » by **Tekkenlaw** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:30 am

How much do the grizzlies value Darko?

Antoine Walker
Rashad McCants
Miami's 1st

for

Darko Milicic
Brian Cardinal
#5

Saves them about 14 million and makes them epic players in the 09 free agent market, but leaves them thin up front for next season.

4ho5ive · Post #19 » by **4ho5ive** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:27 am

Well if we do that deal, we can pretty much kiss our 09 Max FA dreams goodbye. But by then, we may have a great core of young players to work around.

Foye/Telfair/Jaric
Mayo/Brew
Gomes/Brew/Cardinal
Jefferson/FA-2nd rnd-Craigers
Darko/#5 (Love/Lopez)

Plus Mia/Bos and our 1st round picks next year.

the_bruce · Post #20 » by **the_bruce** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:50 am

I'd take Cardinals contract and darkos contract for the #5 pick in an instant.

Dream lineup...
Al\Love\beasly\Brewer\Foye

or the more realistic

Al\Love\Brewer\Mayo\Foye