Starting 5 for the t wolves
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Collins' PT will mirror Buckner's last year. He will start the season getting considerable minutes and the starting job and will slowly give way to The Love Machine as the rookie learns the pro game. How quickly that happens is up to Love.
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Collins is awful and IMO won't start at anytime over Love unless he gets injured...Collins has one use and that is post defense, which will come in handy against the Bigs in the West, but doesn't justify a starting spot due to the total absence of anything resembling an offensive game (his PER is below 4!)...
Foye
Miller
Gomes
Al
Love
Shad is 6th man, replacing either Gomes or Miller depending on the opponent and match-ups (Miller moves down to 3 if Gomes comes out), and Brewer is next, followed by Telfair and then Smith...
Foye
Miller
Gomes
Al
Love
Shad is 6th man, replacing either Gomes or Miller depending on the opponent and match-ups (Miller moves down to 3 if Gomes comes out), and Brewer is next, followed by Telfair and then Smith...
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When was the last time a rookie started off the bat for the Wolves? It's Collins by default, unless the decide to go small with something like Jefferson/Gomes/Miller/Brewer/Foye. Love will start at some point, but probably not in November. Again, not saying Collins isn't awful, but the Wolves started Doleac or Madsen several games last year. They're not opposed to starting a center who blows.
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deeney0 wrote:That's what people said about Theo this time last year. Sucky or not, they'll start the veteran with size.
If you remember correctly I was always on the Theo bandwagon!
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What's with the "Gomes at PF" crap? He's a SF. Yaa he's got decent size and hacked out a few minutes at the position here and there, but come on.
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Telfair
Foye
Miller
Love
Big Al
Book it!
Foye
Miller
Love
Big Al
Book it!
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jdub114 wrote:Telfair
Foye
Miller
Love
Big Al
Book it!
who's your back up pg? plus we have so many guards/wings I highly doubt any of our point guards will take some minutes away from them.
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With the idea of going to the playoffs (that's what their goal is, regardless of how silly it may sound or whatever), they're going to start as many vets as possible I think.
Foye/Brewer/Miller/Jefferson/Collins
McCants and Gomes will be virtual sixth men together, while Love will be playing a lot of minutes as well. Smith will be the spell big man type guy for mainly Jefferson. Telfair obviously will spell Foye and also share the backcourt with him on occasion. Miller's earned a starting spot over Gomes by being a 17-7 guy and an 8 year vet. I put Brew out there instead of Gomes because his defense I think will get him at least the spot in the lineup where he can kind of set the tone defensively and hopefully bring energy to the start of the game, though I believe McCants and Gomes will both play as many or more minutes as Brew and will be on the floor late in games. So I'd see our 4th quarter lineup being more like Foye/McCants/Miller/Gomes/Jefferson or something like that. Love will move in as time goes on, but like I said, early in the season when they're truly trying to win games as opposed to pure player development, you will see more vets on the floor than rooks or 2nd year guys IMO.
Rodney Carney is an ex-factor for me. If he plays really well he can change things up a lot.
Foye/Brewer/Miller/Jefferson/Collins
McCants and Gomes will be virtual sixth men together, while Love will be playing a lot of minutes as well. Smith will be the spell big man type guy for mainly Jefferson. Telfair obviously will spell Foye and also share the backcourt with him on occasion. Miller's earned a starting spot over Gomes by being a 17-7 guy and an 8 year vet. I put Brew out there instead of Gomes because his defense I think will get him at least the spot in the lineup where he can kind of set the tone defensively and hopefully bring energy to the start of the game, though I believe McCants and Gomes will both play as many or more minutes as Brew and will be on the floor late in games. So I'd see our 4th quarter lineup being more like Foye/McCants/Miller/Gomes/Jefferson or something like that. Love will move in as time goes on, but like I said, early in the season when they're truly trying to win games as opposed to pure player development, you will see more vets on the floor than rooks or 2nd year guys IMO.
Rodney Carney is an ex-factor for me. If he plays really well he can change things up a lot.
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I'm pretty sure the starting lineup will be:
Jefferson
Love
Gomes
Miller
Foye
with:
Smith
Brewer
McCants
Telfair
...rouding out the top 9....
The rest of the roster will be used situationally I think. These are the main guys...
Jefferson
Love
Gomes
Miller
Foye
with:
Smith
Brewer
McCants
Telfair
...rouding out the top 9....
The rest of the roster will be used situationally I think. These are the main guys...
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deeney0 wrote:That's what people said about Theo this time last year. Sucky or not, they'll start the veteran with size.
I don't know if people thought Theo sucked, just that he was made out of glass. Collins will not be as good as Ratliff. Love will probably start within 10-15 games, if not right away.
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Love
Jefferson
Miller
McCants
Foye
Jefferson
Miller
McCants
Foye
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Foye
MIller
Gomes
Jefferson
Love
Gotta go with this... anything else is bad bad bad
MIller
Gomes
Jefferson
Love
Gotta go with this... anything else is bad bad bad
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Telfair is garbage, trust me i have seen him play alot and he is a poor mans stephon marbury, and marbury is one of the worst pgs in the league so that cant be good. i do like k-love to be good in the future, i just think it will take some time for him to adjust. I have watched love play since his middle school days, all my friends grew up playing against him in school and i know i cant wait for him to come back to portland cuz i will be interested to see if he gets cheers, my expectation will be many many boo's comin from the crowd, including myself...i mean i ant just let a guy come into my high school gym and shatter the backboard, that deserves some payback lol.
heres a link to the backboard video if ur interested...
the guy who comes up top to receive the pass from the guard is my buddy gabe, but the ball never quite got to his hands lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZpljX-jnFk
heres a link to the backboard video if ur interested...
the guy who comes up top to receive the pass from the guard is my buddy gabe, but the ball never quite got to his hands lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZpljX-jnFk
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BiggieSmalls wrote:Telfair is garbage, trust me i have seen him play alot and he is a poor mans stephon marbury, and marbury is one of the worst pgs in the league so that cant be good. i do like k-love to be good in the future, i just think it will take some time for him to adjust. I have watched love play since his middle school days, all my friends grew up playing against him in school and i know i cant wait for him to come back to portland cuz i will be interested to see if he gets cheers, my expectation will be many many boo's comin from the crowd, including myself...i mean i ant just let a guy come into my high school gym and shatter the backboard, that deserves some payback lol.
heres a link to the backboard video if ur interested...
the guy who comes up top to receive the pass from the guard is my buddy gabe, but the ball never quite got to his hands lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZpljX-jnFk
weird that we kinda like him and how he seems to be matured last season. I just hope it wasn't only for the contract.
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Marbury minus the crazy would still be a very good PG in the NBA. A poor man's Marbury is still worth a look as an NBA backup, especially when he's only 23 and only pulling down a bit over $2.5 mil/year.
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I have a feeling BiggieSmalls hasnt watched Telfair since he was ran out of Portland.
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Marbury one of the worst point guards in the league? Why don't you look up how many players have averaged 20 points and 8 assists for 6 nba seasons?
I'd go with an 8 man rotation of
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Telfair/Foye
Foye/McCants/Brewer
Miller/Gomes/Brewer
Love/Gomes
Jefferson/Love
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Those are the best young players on the T-wolves. Depending on how much time you want to spend on development, play Brewer more or less. He's still pretty far away from being anything more than a utility player IMHO. I see Foye being more effective as a slashing 2 guard who can pass than as a pg.
I'd go with an 8 man rotation of
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Telfair/Foye
Foye/McCants/Brewer
Miller/Gomes/Brewer
Love/Gomes
Jefferson/Love
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Those are the best young players on the T-wolves. Depending on how much time you want to spend on development, play Brewer more or less. He's still pretty far away from being anything more than a utility player IMHO. I see Foye being more effective as a slashing 2 guard who can pass than as a pg.
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I still dont like Foye as a 2. And even IF we were to play him there, I think we would need a bigger guard to play alongside him than the 6'0 Telfair. Foye is an average defender, but opposing 2's would eat him up with their size.
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If Telfair is our starting point guard come openeing day... we are in or a LLLLOOOOONNNNNNGGGGGG season
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C Al Jefferson 22 PPG 11 RPG
PF Kevin Love 12 PPG 9 RPG
SF Ryan Gomes 12 PPG 5 RPG
SG Mike Miller 16 PPG 5 RPG 4 APG
PG Randy Foye 15 PPG 6 APG 3 RPG
Bench
SG-SF Corey Brewer 6 PPG 4 RPG 2 SPG
PF-C Craig Smith 7 PPG 5 RPG
PG Sebastion Telfair 6 PPG 4 APG
SG Rashard McCants 10 PPG 2 RPG 2 APG
C Jason Collins 1 PPG 2 RPG
SG-SF Rodney Carney 5 PPG 3 RPG
I think that will make up the primary rotation and I think they will quite possibly be in the running for the playoffs if they can keep that lineup healthy. They will not be at the top of that division with the Jazz and Blazers next year but I think they have a reasonable shot of finishing ahead of the Nuggets.
PF Kevin Love 12 PPG 9 RPG
SF Ryan Gomes 12 PPG 5 RPG
SG Mike Miller 16 PPG 5 RPG 4 APG
PG Randy Foye 15 PPG 6 APG 3 RPG
Bench
SG-SF Corey Brewer 6 PPG 4 RPG 2 SPG
PF-C Craig Smith 7 PPG 5 RPG
PG Sebastion Telfair 6 PPG 4 APG
SG Rashard McCants 10 PPG 2 RPG 2 APG
C Jason Collins 1 PPG 2 RPG
SG-SF Rodney Carney 5 PPG 3 RPG
I think that will make up the primary rotation and I think they will quite possibly be in the running for the playoffs if they can keep that lineup healthy. They will not be at the top of that division with the Jazz and Blazers next year but I think they have a reasonable shot of finishing ahead of the Nuggets.
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