A petition for the firing Billy King (please help us)

[Paradise]

I see names like Thad Young, Plumlee, Bogdanovic, Markel Brown (lol), and Cory Jefferson (lol) being mentioned as your "young talent." No offense, but you do realize that collection of talent is pretty pathetic.

LOL Have you even watched any of them?

Thad Young is nothing more than a role player in his prime, Mason Plumlee is a decent piece, I'll give you that. Bogdanovic is nothing special

Really? Because he's closing the gap on Joe Johnson in his rookie season.

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and I have no idea why you brought up Brown or Jefferson since they are nothing more than bench warmers and may not even be in the league by the time their contract expires.

Really? because Markel Brown has been a pleasant surprise and an excellent perimeter defender. He's a consistent jumper away from being a full-time starter at SG. I agree with the gist of the post but you can't come in here dissecting our rookies without knowing anything about them. Especially comparing them to the Knicks roster which is a joke. Corey Jefferson is already better than any big man on that team right now.

[Freddie Mitch]

I see names like Thad Young, Plumlee, Bogdanovic, Markel Brown (lol), and Cory Jefferson (lol) being mentioned as your "young talent." No offense, but you do realize that collection of talent is pretty pathetic.

LOL Have you even watched any of them?

Thad Young is nothing more than a role player in his prime, Mason Plumlee is a decent piece, I'll give you that. Bogdanovic is nothing special

Really? Because he's closing the gap on Joe Johnson in his rookie season.

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and I have no idea why you brought up Brown or Jefferson since they are nothing more than bench warmers and may not even be in the league by the time their contract expires.

Really? because Markel Brown has been a pleasant surprise and an excellent perimeter defender. He's a consistent jumper away from being a full-time starter at SG. I agree with the gist of the post but you can't come in here dissecting our rookies without knowing anything about them. Especially comparing them to the Knicks roster which is a joke.

Good post, I stand corrected.

First of all, I am not a Knicks fan (you can look at my previous post history) I apologize and I also admit that I do not watch many Nets games. I was basing my assumptions based off of statistics, and statically, I don't think guys like Brown/Jefferson/Bogdanovic are anything special. I apologize if I sounded disrespectful or sounded like I was bashing your players. The point I was trying to make is that guys like Young, Brown, Bogdanovic are not special players that will sway the thinking of guys like Durant or Lebron when they make their free agency decisions.

The whole gist of my post wasn't to bash your players anyways, it was to bash Billy King, who I think, is currently the worst GM in the entire league. I don't really post much but I enjoy browsing the forums to read about what's going on around the league, and when I saw someone on here defending or trying to justify Billy King and the terrible job he's done for the organization, I couldn't help but to respond.

So my apologies if my post sounded like I was bashing your players/roster. My intention was to argue that Billy King is a horrible GM and should be fired, which isn't any shocking revelation since the majority of people know he is terrible at his job.

[Freddie Mitch]

Tuned in for the Nets/Pacers game to watch your team play.

You're right Bogdanovic is a player

[F3LON]

Tuned in for the Nets/Pacers game to watch your team play.

You're right Bogdanovic is a player

21 pts on 8/8 FG, 3/3 3pt in basically a playoff game.

But Billy King sucks.

[NyCeEvO]

Tuned in for the Nets/Pacers game to watch your team play.

You're right Bogdanovic is a player

21 pts on 8/8 FG, 3/3 3pt in basically a playoff game.

But Billy King sucks.

Would you trade Bojan's performance tonight for a 6th overall pick?

Seems like a ridiculous comparison, right? Well, using the result of one game by a player to absolve King from any other previous faults is extremely short-sighted.

Why didn't you make these same comments when Bogs was playing terrible earlier in the season?

The agenda is obvious. Stop using non sequiturs and strawman arguments. It's embarrassing.

[Freddie Mitch]

Tuned in for the Nets/Pacers game to watch your team play.

You're right Bogdanovic is a player

21 pts on 8/8 FG, 3/3 3pt in basically a playoff game.

But Billy King sucks.

One good move doesn't make up an entire history of terrible moves. Pretty much every move Billy King has made since being hired by your organization has been terrible and has back fired, yet you seem the be the only person defending him. You are the only person who I've ever seen actually defend his GM capabilities. He's seen as an incompetent, and horrible GM unanimously by pretty much all Nets, Sixers, and NBA fans in general. I have no idea what your agenda is, hell I'm not even a Nets fan, I just think the notion of someone claiming Billy King has done a great job with the Nets is absolutely ridiculous. If you truly believe he is a good GM, then good for you. I'm not going to debate with you since obviously nothing I say will change your opinion of him. Since I'm not a Nets fan I guess it's actually in best interest for me to hope that you guys don't fire King anyways

[HeartBreakKid]

Tuned in for the Nets/Pacers game to watch your team play.

You're right Bogdanovic is a player

21 pts on 8/8 FG, 3/3 3pt in basically a playoff game.

But Billy King sucks.

I hope you are not being sarcastic.

[MrDollarBills]

I also admit that I do not watch many Nets games. I was basing my assumptions based off of statistics, and statically, I don't think guys like Brown/Jefferson/Bogdanovic are anything special. I apologize if I sounded disrespectful or sounded like I was bashing your players. T

Then why are you in here running your mouth about our team's players?

You were bashing them, you look at bare bones stats without watching them play and you don't know what the **** you're talking about.

Brown and Bogdanovic are really developing, Brown on the defensive end as a solid roleplayer on the perimeter and Bogdanovic as a scorer. Jefferson is definitely worth another season's worth of development as he has shown flashes on both ends of the floor.

I would say that you're trolling, but maybe you're just ignorant. If you're going to come onto our board to trash our players, at least be somewhat aware of who they are and what they can do.

[Freddie Mitch]

I also admit that I do not watch many Nets games. I was basing my assumptions based off of statistics, and statically, I don't think guys like Brown/Jefferson/Bogdanovic are anything special. I apologize if I sounded disrespectful or sounded like I was bashing your players. T

Then why are you in here running your mouth about our team's players?

You were bashing them, you look at bare bones stats without watching them play and you don't know what the **** you're talking about.

Brown and Bogdanovic are really developing, Brown on the defensive end as a solid roleplayer on the perimeter and Bogdanovic as a scorer. Jefferson is definitely worth another season's worth of development as he has shown flashes on both ends of the floor.

I would say that you're trolling, but maybe you're just ignorant. If you're going to come onto our board to trash our players, at least be somewhat aware of who they are and what they can do.

As I have already previously stated, I apologize and stand corrected

[Paradise]

I see names like Thad Young, Plumlee, Bogdanovic, Markel Brown (lol), and Cory Jefferson (lol) being mentioned as your "young talent." No offense, but you do realize that collection of talent is pretty pathetic.

LOL Have you even watched any of them?

Thad Young is nothing more than a role player in his prime, Mason Plumlee is a decent piece, I'll give you that. Bogdanovic is nothing special

Really? Because he's closing the gap on Joe Johnson in his rookie season.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRzOrtfageQ[/youtube]
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and I have no idea why you brought up Brown or Jefferson since they are nothing more than bench warmers and may not even be in the league by the time their contract expires.

Really? because Markel Brown has been a pleasant surprise and an excellent perimeter defender. He's a consistent jumper away from being a full-time starter at SG. I agree with the gist of the post but you can't come in here dissecting our rookies without knowing anything about them. Especially comparing them to the Knicks roster which is a joke.

Good post, I stand corrected.

First of all, I am not a Knicks fan (you can look at my previous post history) I apologize and I also admit that I do not watch many Nets games. I was basing my assumptions based off of statistics, and statically, I don't think guys like Brown/Jefferson/Bogdanovic are anything special. I apologize if I sounded disrespectful or sounded like I was bashing your players. The point I was trying to make is that guys like Young, Brown, Bogdanovic are not special players that will sway the thinking of guys like Durant or Lebron when they make their free agency decisions.

The whole gist of my post wasn't to bash your players anyways, it was to bash Billy King, who I think, is currently the worst GM in the entire league. I don't really post much but I enjoy browsing the forums to read about what's going on around the league, and when I saw someone on here defending or trying to justify Billy King and the terrible job he's done for the organization, I couldn't help but to respond.

So my apologies if my post sounded like I was bashing your players/roster. My intention was to argue that Billy King is a horrible GM and should be fired, which isn't any shocking revelation since the majority of people know he is terrible at his job.

I agree that some are totally in denial about the state of the franchise. It's not good. I do believe we will put together a solid to good team in 2016 but far from a true contender. Billy King has done an absolutely worse job here than Philly.

[MrDollarBills]

I think that we are in bad shape but with the cap increase and the dead weight being removed from the books, there is a some slight room for the ship to be turned around...but it's hard to have faith if the same person who got us into this mess in the first place still has his job.

There is under no circumstances though that I call what King has done here anything but a failure.

[FireBillyKing]

To further our point, ESPN ranked all NBA executives for 2015. Not surprising Billy King had the worst score, ranking his the worst NBA executive in the NBA.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12555 ... executives

I just don't understand how there are still fans in this thread stating he is a good GM. Even ESPN knows he is terrible and is publishing it.

[SIC]

Even ESPN knows he is terrible and is publishing it.

Sorry but this doesnt really mean much.

I am not defending Billy King, but IMO the only trade that has really hurt us is the Wallace one.

The JJ and KG/PP trade were not that bad until Kidd decided to bolt. Before Kidd attempted his Coup D'etat, BKing was on the record saying he was going to get Kidd the players Kidd wanted for his system. Nets wouldnt be this bad if Kidd didnt up and leave forcing BKing to rush to hire Freaken Hollins. Nets would have entered training camp under Kidd for his second year and knowing what was expected from them. Maybe PP would have been here too. Kidd wanted young athletic guys. Bogs, Brown, and CJ fit the bill.

IF this article has any merit
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/baske ... -1.1294851

I would drop Hollins and even give Calipari say in Basketball Operations to throw back into Kidd's face.

[MrDollarBills]

Even ESPN knows he is terrible and is publishing it.

Sorry but this doesnt really mean much.

I am not defending Billy King, but IMO the only trade that has really hurt us is the Wallace one.

The JJ and KG/PP trade were not that bad until Kidd decided to bolt. Before Kidd attempted his Coup D'etat, BKing was on the record saying he was going to get Kidd the players Kidd wanted for his system. Nets wouldnt be this bad if Kidd didnt up and leave forcing BKing to rush to hire Freaken Hollins. Nets would have entered training camp under Kidd for his second year and knowing what was expected from them. Maybe PP would have been here too. Kidd wanted young athletic guys. Bogs, Brown, and CJ fit the bill.

IF this article has any merit
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/baske ... -1.1294851

I would drop Hollins and even give Calipari say in Basketball Operations to throw back into Kidd's face.

The Wallace trade is the reason why the Nets had to lose more picks than necessary to acquire Pierce and KG.

Kidd wasn't going to stay because he knew the Nets were hamstrung and had no plan in place...and he had a better opportunity where he'd have full control.

Either way the focus on Hollins is misplaced. Williams and Johnson are horrible. That's the main problem right there...but the ESPN ranking is correct. When you have the highest payroll in the sport, zero assets to improve the team, you're set to forfeit a lottery pick in an ill advised and short sighted pick swap and your team is 29-40 at the end of March, you are the worst GM in basketball. Period.

[Prokorov]

Even ESPN knows he is terrible and is publishing it.

Sorry but this doesnt really mean much.

I am not defending Billy King, but IMO the only trade that has really hurt us is the Wallace one.

The JJ and KG/PP trade were not that bad until Kidd decided to bolt. Before Kidd attempted his Coup D'etat, BKing was on the record saying he was going to get Kidd the players Kidd wanted for his system. Nets wouldnt be this bad if Kidd didnt up and leave forcing BKing to rush to hire Freaken Hollins. Nets would have entered training camp under Kidd for his second year and knowing what was expected from them. Maybe PP would have been here too. Kidd wanted young athletic guys. Bogs, Brown, and CJ fit the bill.

IF this article has any merit
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/baske ... -1.1294851

I would drop Hollins and even give Calipari say in Basketball Operations to throw back into Kidd's face.

The Joe Johnson trade wasnt as bad as the wallace trade, but it isnt too far off.

While I love Joe and what he has done for us, gotten us the furthest of any of our big 3, that was still a beyond terrible trade.

King gave up a pick AND a pick swap AND 100% expirings for the worst contract in the league and one nobody else would touch. he was bidding against himself.

King should have made that same trade and GOTTEN 2 picks from atlanta. think about it. joe has 1 more year left on his deal and we would have to give up plumlee or a first in order to move him.

joe had 4 years left on his deal when we got him and we GAVE UP picks.

the story that ferry bowed out to let king get the nets job pretty much cements it in my mind that king was paying him back for that favor.

[NyCeEvO]

To further our point, ESPN ranked all NBA executives for 2015. Not surprising Billy King had the worst score, ranking his the worst NBA executive in the NBA.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12555 ... executives

I just don't understand how there are still fans in this thread stating he is a good GM. Even ESPN knows he is terrible and is publishing it.

You should send this to whomever you were/are talking to in the organization.

King/Razumov rank dead last in the league for GMs!

[kamaze]

Even ESPN knows he is terrible and is publishing it.

Sorry but this doesnt really mean much.

I am not defending Billy King, but IMO the only trade that has really hurt us is the Wallace one.

The JJ and KG/PP trade were not that bad until Kidd decided to bolt. Before Kidd attempted his Coup D'etat, BKing was on the record saying he was going to get Kidd the players Kidd wanted for his system. Nets wouldnt be this bad if Kidd didnt up and leave forcing BKing to rush to hire Freaken Hollins. Nets would have entered training camp under Kidd for his second year and knowing what was expected from them. Maybe PP would have been here too. Kidd wanted young athletic guys. Bogs, Brown, and CJ fit the bill.

IF this article has any merit
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/baske ... -1.1294851

I would drop Hollins and even give Calipari say in Basketball Operations to throw back into Kidd's face.

Not drafting COUsins because they wanted to trade the pick for a then star was a bad move. Especially since it ended up not being a true star.

Orlando would've taken him for Howard but that's another story. If the owner had a clue he would realize the stars he wanted for Brooklyn were in his hands (Cousins, Damian Lillard) 2 rookie contracts Billy King would've still had money to blow.

The Boston trade was (Please Use More Appropriate Word) gave up waaaay too much for 2 players on there last leg. Billy King is incompetent and so is ownership.

[Prokorov]

I see names like Thad Young, Plumlee, Bogdanovic, Markel Brown (lol), and Cory Jefferson (lol) being mentioned as your "young talent." No offense, but you do realize that collection of talent is pretty pathetic.

LOL Have you even watched any of them?

Thad Young is nothing more than a role player in his prime, Mason Plumlee is a decent piece, I'll give you that. Bogdanovic is nothing special

Really? Because he's closing the gap on Joe Johnson in his rookie season.

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and I have no idea why you brought up Brown or Jefferson since they are nothing more than bench warmers and may not even be in the league by the time their contract expires.

Really? because Markel Brown has been a pleasant surprise and an excellent perimeter defender. He's a consistent jumper away from being a full-time starter at SG. I agree with the gist of the post but you can't come in here dissecting our rookies without knowing anything about them. Especially comparing them to the Knicks roster which is a joke. Corey Jefferson is already better than any big man on that team right now.

bogs isnt closing the gap on johnson, johnson is closing that gap by being terrible(last 2 games not included). Bogs hasnt been anything special, and really isnt anything more then a future role player.

Same with brown. his ceiling is avery bradley. nothing wrong with that but it isnt anything to write home about.

plumlee could still become something. but overall he is correct. unless a team is high on mason, we have no young talent. most teams have a markel or a cj or a bogs on their team.

[FireBillyKing]

Season over. Nets were sub-500 with the most expensive roster in the NBA. Lost in the First Round and declining.

Billy King still has chips to play with the further destory the nets future.

Maxing out Lopez?

Overpaying Young?

Trading DWill or JJ for garbage...

He needs to go ASAP

Please sign our petition and support our cause http://www.firebillyking.com

[kerry kittles]

Season over. Nets were sub-500 with the most expensive roster in the NBA. Lost in the First Round and declining.

Billy King still has chips to play with the further destory the nets future.

Maxing out Lopez?

Overpaying Young?

Trading DWill or JJ for garbage...

He needs to go ASAP

Please sign our petition and support our cause http://www.firebillyking.com

Thanks for the bump, signed.