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Garnett said he saw something he wanted to stop in Vucevic’s game, “but if I told you it would be worthless.”
jbeachboy wrote:Any chance lopez ever learns how to defend and rebound under hollins?
therealbig3 wrote:I'm not going to completely write off Lopez after a small stretch of games in which he's still rusty...I'm sure he's going to play better.
But I definitely think the numbers he puts up are a little empty, and people are too quick to ignore his flaws and just how he goes about putting up those numbers. He doesn't do it in a way that's most conducive to winning basketball, imo. Still a good player, but there are quite a few players that might not put up the pretty numbers that Lopez does, but they're players that I think are helping their team just as much if not more than Lopez.
Paradise wrote:I like what I'm seeing. The individual improvement is there but the defensive end is scary bad. I think we will better. This team needs a culture shock. I'm glad Hollins is calling out Brook.
In terms of Joe's comments, I love it to be honest. Even if he had a poor game, he has earned the right to show some form of leadership. We've been waiting for someone to take accountability.
MGrand15 wrote:
Just to add: after scoring 10 straight points in the 1st quarter, he didn't check back into the game until there were 2 minutes left in the 2nd. That probably annoyed him since he probably thought he was in for a big night.
GODeron wrote:Deron Williams so far...
19 ppg
49% FG%
32% 3P%
7 apg
2.5 tov
TOP 4 PG behind CP3, Curry and Wall?
HelloBrooklyn wrote:Bogs reminds me of a young Manu Ginobili. This guy is legit
macgyver893 wrote:You guys hear Hollins in post game about Brook? "He was watching Vuv make shots, so he didn't get to play, simple. Decided to go with Kg to close it, and it worked better." Said he hopes Brook gets better from this for future games so he can play.
+1 Hollins.
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Prokorov wrote:HelloBrooklyn wrote:Bogs reminds me of a young Manu Ginobili. This guy is legit
i lvoe bogs so far but i dont really see that comparison. Manu was an unreal slasher and an insane finisher at the rim who was also able to get to the FT line 6 or so times a game. i dont see that from bogs.
therealbig3 wrote:Garnett said he saw something he wanted to stop in Vucevic’s game, “but if I told you it would be worthless.”
Credit to The Brooklyn Game.
This is why I call KG a defensive genius. The guy just sees things that other people don't.
I know I come across like a KG homer, and IDC. Dude's a boss.
If Lopez could learn even half of what KG knows defensively, he'd be a SIGNIFICANTLY better player than he is right now.
Not to take anything away from KG. Not many Cs can effectively stop all 3 and play effective help defense. KG is so quick and physical that when he plays up on guys like Vucevic and Frye, he can shut down the jump shot and the drive. Lopez wasnt confident enough in his ability to stop the drive to press up effectively. MGrand15 wrote:therealbig3 wrote:Garnett said he saw something he wanted to stop in Vucevic’s game, “but if I told you it would be worthless.”
Credit to The Brooklyn Game.
This is why I call KG a defensive genius. The guy just sees things that other people don't.
I know I come across like a KG homer, and IDC. Dude's a boss.
If Lopez could learn even half of what KG knows defensively, he'd be a SIGNIFICANTLY better player than he is right now.
To be fair - it doesnt take a genius to see that Vucevic was scoring all his points off of open jump shots, offensive rebounds and deep paint catches
It's funny that consensus around the league/media is that KG is done (even guys on this board were saying that after watching him all of last year) yet he can completely shut down a young center who just signed a huge contract in the middle of a career night. While racking up 7 dimes.
Especially after he just said this in a recent interview:MGrand15 wrote:Cant believe a basketball fan would say Brook is passionate about comics not bball. Skip Bayless level stuff.
Brook will be fine. This shows that Hollins is willing to make adjustments if Brook is struggling or there's a bad matchup. As a slow footed giant who's played a handful of games in the last year, there's gonna be nights where Brook doesnt work. Ideally we'd have Plumlee to back Brook up but he's clearly not ready at all.
Hollins is going about this the right way. Thats all that matters. Its up to Brook to step it up.
What bothers him in terms of criticism...
"I’d say if there was anything, it would be more that I pay more attention or care more about off-court stuff, my other interests that somehow are taken in a negative way, and that I don’t care about the game as much as I should, ’cause I love the game, I’ve played it my entire life. It’s what I do, it’s my job, it’s what I live for, and I love being out on the floor."
DarkXaero wrote:I understand why Hollins benched Lopez and I agree with the move, but I feel like he should be more careful in regards to his comments on players. He already criticized Brook a lot after the Twolves game, and he criticized him again a lot last night after the game. It's okay to criticize your player's performance in the media, every once in a while, but if you keep doing it, there's a real risk of alienating and angering the player.
If you look at some all time great coaches, they were masters at team management and managing egos. While not a basketball example, Sir Alex Ferguson for Manchester United used to protect his players in the media a lot, even though he would go off on them in the locker room.
Well, Hollins can certainly let Brook know that inside the locker room, without the media. What I'm saying is that there is a major difference between criticizing a player inside a locker room privately, and doing it publicly. If you keep roasting your player publicly, it can lead to serious problems between the coach and the player. Which is why it's not wise to do thatParadise wrote:DarkXaero wrote:I understand why Hollins benched Lopez and I agree with the move, but I feel like he should be more careful in regards to his comments on players. He already criticized Brook a lot after the Twolves game, and he criticized him again a lot last night after the game. It's okay to criticize your player's performance in the media, every once in a while, but if you keep doing it, there's a real risk of alienating and angering the player.
If you look at some all time great coaches, they were masters at team management and managing egos. While not a basketball example, Sir Alex Ferguson for Manchester United used to protect his players in the media a lot, even though he would go off on them in the locker room.
Yeah but when you are giving up 70% as an interior defender, you need to be called out. Brook has showed he could be a great rim protector. It's a matter of focus. He's not even trying on certain possessions.
DarkXaero wrote:Well, Hollins can certainly let Brook know that inside the locker room, without the media. What I'm saying is that there is a major difference between criticizing a player inside a locker room privately, and doing it publicly. If you keep roasting your player publicly, it can lead to serious problems between the coach and the player. Which is why it's not wise to do thatParadise wrote:DarkXaero wrote:I understand why Hollins benched Lopez and I agree with the move, but I feel like he should be more careful in regards to his comments on players. He already criticized Brook a lot after the Twolves game, and he criticized him again a lot last night after the game. It's okay to criticize your player's performance in the media, every once in a while, but if you keep doing it, there's a real risk of alienating and angering the player.
If you look at some all time great coaches, they were masters at team management and managing egos. While not a basketball example, Sir Alex Ferguson for Manchester United used to protect his players in the media a lot, even though he would go off on them in the locker room.
Yeah but when you are giving up 70% as an interior defender, you need to be called out. Brook has showed he could be a great rim protector. It's a matter of focus. He's not even trying on certain possessions.
