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Draft Thread #13 Jason Voorhees Ed. - (1st Round: 8th, 2nd Round 44th, 58th)

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What To Do @8th?

Trade Up
9
6%
Trade Down
5
3%
Pick BPA (regardless of need)
30
19%
Monk
12
8%
Tatum
1
1%
Isaac <-- Screw You!
13
8%
DSJ
37
23%
Nikilita
33
21%
Fox
12
8%
Markannen
6
4%
 
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Re: Draft Thread #13 Jason Voorhees Ed. - (1st Round: 8th, 2nd Round 44th, 58th) 

Post#1161 » by N Y K » Sat May 20, 2017 2:12 am

draft frank and then draft kostja, and get two guards with 7'0 wingspans... will that make everyone happy?

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Re: Draft Thread #13 Jason Voorhees Ed. - (1st Round: 8th, 2nd Round 44th, 58th) 

Post#1162 » by Jose7 » Sat May 20, 2017 2:13 am

IllmaticHandler wrote:
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IllmaticHandler wrote:There is a bunch of people saying this...but

Don't Ever Listen to Anyone when the say Wingspan is not Important. Wingspan and Hand Size is always a Benefit. There is a reason why Long wingspans are coveted. Simply put, Players with Long Wingspans have advantages over dudes with short ones.


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Think Kwahi would be a beast without that Wingspan? Yeah Okay.




Prime Rondo...interesting **** player.

that's why I love me some Dejounte Murray..took him in two BATs back...

Frank man... I still think Orlando takes him but Im type hoping i'm wrong.



Murray Arms is ridiculous man. Its one of the reasons why I rock with that cat. I would not care about a Few PG's if I could get a hold of him. I will be FOREVER butt hurt that a PG like that falls that far to the SPURS of all people. We was thirsty as hell for pick last year. I will always feel that he should have been ours. :-?


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Re: Draft Thread #13 Jason Voorhees Ed. - (1st Round: 8th, 2nd Round 44th, 58th) 

Post#1163 » by Jose7 » Sat May 20, 2017 2:14 am

N Y K wrote:draft frank and then draft kostja get two guards with 7'0 wingspans... will that make everyone happy?


Dont know much about kostja...but **** aint just about wingspan.. we all know Frank has clout..he has skill with the body/athleticism..
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Re: Draft Thread #13 Jason Voorhees Ed. - (1st Round: 8th, 2nd Round 44th, 58th) 

Post#1164 » by N Y K » Sat May 20, 2017 2:16 am

Jose7 wrote:
N Y K wrote:draft frank and then draft kostja get two guards with 7'0 wingspans... will that make everyone happy?


Dont know much about kostja...but **** aint just about wingspan.. we all know Frank has clout..he has skill with the body/athleticism..

you wouldn't think that was true based on this place over the last week
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Re: Draft Thread #13 Jason Voorhees Ed. - (1st Round: 8th, 2nd Round 44th, 58th) 

Post#1165 » by IllmaticHandler » Sat May 20, 2017 2:28 am

N Y K wrote:draft frank and then draft kostja, and get two guards with 7'0 wingspans... will that make everyone happy?




Moar Wingspan Please. MOAR. :lol:
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Post#1166 » by Nyk_Fatboy » Sat May 20, 2017 2:37 am

N Y K wrote:draft frank and then draft kostja, and get two guards with 7'0 wingspans... will that make everyone happy?



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Re: Draft Thread #13 Jason Voorhees Ed. - (1st Round: 8th, 2nd Round 44th, 58th) 

Post#1167 » by IllmaticHandler » Sat May 20, 2017 2:39 am

Is there something called the Wingspan Brigade Brewing? :o
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Re: RE: Draft Thread #13 Jason Voorhees Ed. - (1st Round: 8th, 2nd Round 44th, 58th) 

Post#1168 » by moocow007 » Sat May 20, 2017 2:42 am

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Grinditout wrote:http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/stephon-marbury-play-mike-antoni-doesn-article-1.305028

Marbury-Pringles was wonderful to watch, I don't know what you could possibly be talking about.


What I'm talking about is that you can't "simply just bench" Anthony without consequence. Anthony isn't Marbury. But even then, the reputation the Knicks had in part because of all their schenanigans had repercusions. Just look at what players wanted to sign with the Knicks. I'm not sure what you guys are not seeing. The notion that you can simply bench Anthony and be fine is ludicrous. Heck, you already see what bad mouthing Anthony does to your own players (see Porzingis). Now you want to bench him completely and think that that will be fine? Players (and the Players Union) don't hate Anthony like some fans do and absolutely there will be fallout from it.


Both Fox and Smith have expressed strong interest in being drafted by the Knicks. Phil is Fox's idol. F*ck the NBAPA. She's using Melo's situation to make a name for herself. Either that or she was pressured into taking that position.


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Re: Draft Thread #13 Jason Voorhees Ed. - (1st Round: 8th, 2nd Round 44th, 58th) 

Post#1169 » by Deeeez Knicks » Sat May 20, 2017 2:45 am

Meanwhile the 4 best teams have trex arm pgs. You guys are crazy :lol:

Give me wings with crazy wingspan. Give me guards with skill
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Post#1170 » by moocow007 » Sat May 20, 2017 2:45 am

blueNorange wrote:what's wrong with drafting frank jackson at 8th?

i like his measurements.

He's a short SG that averaged 10ppg and doesn't do much of anything else. You'd be much better off liking Ntilikina or any of the other guys that are actually lottery caliber players.

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Post#1171 » by moocow007 » Sat May 20, 2017 2:48 am

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Woodsanity wrote:Do you guys think we can draft a good PG prospect with the 8th pick. I don't follow college hoops much so my knowledge of prospects is limited.


Depends on what the teams above us do and who you consider to be a PG from an NBA standpoint. In my mock I have Malik Monk going to the Knicks. He was listed as a PG as a top recruit coming out of HS but he was exclusively used as a SG by Kentucky. Monk displayed very little in the way of traditional PG skills at Kentucky and instead showed that he's extremely skilled at scoring. So is he a PG or is he a SG in the NBA? If the Knicks consider him a PG then sure, you can get a good PG.

Same with a guy like Ntilikina. Is he a PG or is he a SG with some PG skills? Listed as a PG I believe Ntilikina primarily functions as his teams SG. So...if you think that he's a PG then sure, he could be a good one as well.

But chances are probably pretty good that all of the other PG types will be gone by 8.

I am thinking more in the lines of a competent playmaker who can also shoot/score.

Thats what we really need. We need a good facilitator.

Then I'm not sure either of those guys would be what you are looking for.
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Post#1172 » by Nyk_Fatboy » Sat May 20, 2017 2:48 am

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Meanwhile the 2 best teams have trex arm pgs. You guys are crazy :lol:

Give me wings with crazy wingspan. Give me guards with skill



:D so who's the irving and curry of this draft
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Post#1173 » by IllmaticHandler » Sat May 20, 2017 2:49 am

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Meanwhile the 4 best teams have trex arm pgs. You guys are crazy :lol:

Give me wings with crazy wingspan. Give me guards with skill



Say it with me. Moar Wingspan Moar Wingspan. :o


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Post#1174 » by whocares1 » Sat May 20, 2017 2:56 am

I won't even watch a draft prospect video if his arms aren't long enough to tie his sneakers standing up.
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Post#1175 » by HEZI » Sat May 20, 2017 3:02 am

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Wingspan can't save you from being a bust
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Post#1176 » by whocares1 » Sat May 20, 2017 3:04 am

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Wingspan can't save you from being a bust


Yea but Frank's wingspan is 6'11. Instantly means that he's going to be better than all of them.
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Post#1177 » by HEZI » Sat May 20, 2017 3:07 am

whocares1 wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:Image

Wingspan can't save you from being a bust


Yea but Frank's wingspan is 6'11. Instantly means that he's going to be better than all of them.


Oh shyt my bad. I forgot about that half an inch on each arm difference. Yeah you're right
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Post#1178 » by moocow007 » Sat May 20, 2017 3:16 am

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King of Canada wrote:
Probably more like Monk or Isaac. I see that draft go down as 1)Fultz, 2)Ball, 3)Jackson, 4)Tatum/Fox 5)Fox/Tatum, 6)DSJR, 7)Frank, 8)The leftovers ie: Monk, I saac, etc...

Monk it is then


The Kings wouldn't pick Tatum I doubt it. Kings will go Smith/Fox/Monk.

Fultz
Ball
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Suns get Tatum
Kings get Smith or Monk
Magic get Smith or Monk or Isaac
Wolves get Isaac or Markannen or something
Knicks get Fox


Rudy Gay has already said he's opting out so the Kings will both be without their top 2 offensive players from last season (Cousins is the other). Tyreke Evans, arguably their 3rd best offensive player and the only other SF on their roster from last season is a FA and likely to be gone. They only have 2 PFs in a still very raw Labissiere and a journeyman in Anthony Tolliver. Tatum can probably play both forward positions and would give you an advanced offensive player that can create his own shot and defend with some ability. I can definitely see the Kings being interested in Tatum.

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Post#1179 » by NY2TheBay » Sat May 20, 2017 3:16 am

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NY2TheBay wrote:speaking of wingspans, this MJ wings poster was dope. had it in my room as a young buck.

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My best friend had that one. I had the Bo Jackson poster.


dope. this one right?
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Post#1180 » by moocow007 » Sat May 20, 2017 3:17 am

SARGO127 wrote:Why are people high on Monk? He's basically Jamal Crawford.

I don't think people are high on Monk as simply stating that the other players will be gone. The mocks that folks are posting is based on who they think will go where not who they wish the Z knicks end up with

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