Serbia vs. Russia on now (MozGod)

[K_ick_God]

I always get confused on this but does it count as a shot attempt if you get fouled in the act of shooting or do they just count the foul shots?

I see Mozgov's 2-8 shooting but 8-8 from the line and wonder if 4 of those misses were shots he was fouled on.

In NBA scoring, a miss on a foul does not count as a missed attempt.

[K_ick_God]

3/10 2PT
8/8 FT

14PTS

any rebounds or blocks?

Would all depend on his defense to see how he really did -- not worried about the misses from the field. The 8-8 is an encouraging sign. The guy clearly is not just a 7-foot big body. He moves really well and apparently can shoot the ball, at least in a streaky way. That's an intriguing package at least.

7 footers with his true size, mobility and who are not a total loss shooting the ball give you a lot to work with.

[Stuckey-man]

Meh, he's a good enough rebounder and PnR player, but he has no offense. He tried a post move on Milan Macvan, a 6'9" guy, and he airballed it. I felt awkward for him.

If D'Antoni breaks out the full-on SSOL system, Mosgov is never going to get the ball in the post with his back to the goal.

[Rasho Brezec]

His poor IQ shows again. He came off the bench right now, played 30 seconds and got two fouls.

[Subway Token]

Is the game showing anywhere on US tv?

[Rasho Brezec]

You don't want to watch this. The highlight of the game so far has been 5 seconds of Goran Dragic's girlfriend on screen.

[I am Ra]

You don't want to watch this. The highlight of the game so far has been 5 seconds of Goran Dragic's girlfriend on screen.

[Subway Token]

No, I actually like to watch international ball... so s it on tv in the states?

[can o peas]

No, I actually like to watch international ball... so s it on tv in the states?

http://channelsurfing.net/watch-fiba.html

don't mind rasho, he was just sore because russia was beating slovenia 17-4 (slovenia came back and is leading now though).

second half has just started.

edit: ugh, 11-0 run for slovenia to start the half. maybe rasho was right and this isn't worth watching

[Rasho Brezec]

Lol, I'm not sore about anything, I'm well aware of their limitations.The fact of the matter is, Russia plays very unattractive style of basketball. Combine that with Slovenia's lack of organized system and you've got an ugly game.

Couple of things about Mozgov: his awareness really is poor. One of the Russian guards went in for a layup and instead of clearing out the lane, he stopped right underneath the basket so Brezec who has the vertical of an elephant blocked his weak layup.

On another occasion, he couldn't outmuscle Brezec for a post up because he positioned himself badly.

Just now, he goaltended a shot that had no chance of going in.

[Rasho Brezec]

He had a lovely spin move just now, but blew a wide open layup then.

Okay, and another nice post move. This one was textbook stuff.

[can o peas]

Lol, I'm not sore about anything, I'm well aware of their limitations.The fact of the matter is, Russia plays very unattractive style of basketball. Combine that with Slovenia's lack of organized system and you've got an ugly game.

Couple of things about Mozgov: his awareness really is poor. One of the Russian guards went in for a layup and instead of clearing out the lane, he stopped right underneath the basket so Brezec who has the vertical of an elephant blocked his weak layup.

On another occasion, he couldn't outmuscle Brezec for a post up because he positioned himself badly.

Just now, he goaltended a shot that had no chance of going in.

are you in slovenia? you should have went even though it's an exhibition.

anyway mozgov in now, had a nice move to the basket but missed the finger roll and then had a nice move for a basket. four fouls though, dang.

[Rasho Brezec]

I'm going tomorrow.

[K_ick_God]

Good looking post move from Moz in the paint. Up-fake and put it up softly with the left hand off the glass. He has a good feel for the rim.

He just had another nice fake in the paint and drew the foul. Nothing but the bottom of the net on both FT's.

His defensive awareness does not look there.

[K_ick_God]

The Slovenian coach is chubby and should be wearing a looser fitting shirt.

I'll keep coming with my observations

[Rasho Brezec]

You leave Fred Flinstone alone.

[K_ick_God]

Good pick and roll by Moz just now, draws the foul. He moves well around the basket.

My initial feeling is that he seems like more of an offensive player because he has not yet learned to use his size to defend. Hopefully it can be taught.

But pretty comfortable scoring the ball.

Just hit two more FTs perfectly - definitely has good motion on his release.

He just had a big block at the rim.

[K_ick_God]

He doesn't always seem to know where to be -- definitely a bit lost at times, sets unnecessary picks, etc. But very good motor -- always moving.

My take on it is if he keeps it very simple, he shines.

For instance, he doesn't have good help instincts but if he zeroes in on you defensively and bears down, he can use his size/agility to erase your shot usually.

If he gets the ball darting to the rim, he's going to finish or draw the foul. But if the play becomes too complicated, he can get lost.

Russia on a late frantic run. Mosgov is key to the rally.

[K_ick_God]

Just grabbed an offensive board. He doesn't seem to be a great rebounder though, that one kind of fell into his lap.

He seems to fit 7SOL because he's good in quick strike situations.

[can o peas]

I couldn't find the Team USA thread but there's a Blue vs. White scrimmage on NBATV right now.