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Re: Fields issue 

Post#61 » by mpharris36 » Mon Apr 9, 2012 9:06 pm

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Last several games, Fields' shot has been much better. That did not stop Woodson to take him out with the first missed shot while tolerating JR's chucking. I call foul on this.



His shot has been better. But you can't really call foul on a coach who is 11-3.


but yet he continues to miss FT's...i think he is a decent role player but it is obvious he lacks mental toughness imho.
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Re: Fields issue 

Post#62 » by hatnlvr » Mon Apr 9, 2012 9:15 pm

SmooveMelo wrote:I think its moreso to keep JR happy and possibly give him a reason to come back next year. And btw, JR can hit 3s, create his own shot, better defender and knock down open shots. Not so much the same with Fields this year.


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Re: Fields issue 

Post#63 » by Ralphie96 » Mon Apr 9, 2012 9:46 pm

mpharris36 wrote:Fields is extremely limited...no one respects his shooting because it is god awful. He is a below average defender...not good on ball and is the worse chasing people around screens.

He is a decent glue guy...solid pass (can't throw alley's for the life of him) decent slasher, solid finisher even though he goes up like a girl more than not and should throw it down instead he gets blocked.

He is what he is a 10-20 minute a night role player nothing more. He shouldn't play down the stretch because the moment seems to get to him...i can count a few airballs in big games (boston playoffs, @boston this year, and missing FT"s)

the fact that I would trust dwight howard to hit a big FT over fields says a lot.


it does say a lot...
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Re: Fields issue 

Post#64 » by aggo » Mon Apr 9, 2012 9:53 pm

Landry is not a below average defender

he's average

his lateral movement, especially fighting through screens and picks is crap. He gets burned a ton on those plays and teams have obviously identified it as a weakness in his game because HE IS DEFENDING OUT OF POSITION.

Landry's ability to drive to the basket is probably the 2nd best on this team. He gets there and finishes there at a very high rate.

JR is a better defender, creator, playmaker, etc etc. Landry's ability to create off the dribble for himself or his teammates isn't there yet. He's a spot up jumpshooter with good quickness to the hole.

JR can make his own shots anywhere on the floor
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Re: Fields issue 

Post#65 » by BigShot Bojan » Mon Apr 9, 2012 9:59 pm

Maybe cause jr takes a big dump on fields chest....
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Re: Fields issue 

Post#66 » by DocZaius » Mon Apr 9, 2012 10:11 pm

You keep Landry in the game until he starts forcing it. He is what I call a momentum/rhythm player.

However, once he starts going bad, it becomes a snowball and he needs to be removed.

Reinsert him after a period of stagnation, and usually he creates momentum back in our favor.

He is odd in that way but he is definitely a winning type player.
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Re: Fields issue 

Post#67 » by CoolKids » Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:11 am

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Nono wrote:Both are really terrible. Shooting guards that can't shoot are worth really little at the end of the day. Fields knows his limitations though. He won't try to do crazy shots time and time again. With JR, it's like half of his shots are turnovers. I feel he is overrated on defense too. Hopefully he won't exercise his player option next year, but I can't see any team that will want to pay $2.5m for an off the bench chucker.


everyone is so short sighted on this site. we should only be so lucky that he picks up that option.

seriously. JR can get paid alot more then that
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Re: Fields issue 

Post#68 » by StutterStep » Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:17 am

It is clear that Woodson has a problem with Fields, and it has very little to do with basketball.

I mean what coach would prefer to play JR Smith over Landry Fields. Look at Denver, they gave countless other players chances over JR Smith, and ended up keeping Aron Afflalo over him.

JR Smith has better skills than Landry Fields but Fields is a better player -- hard to grasp, but really think about it.
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Re: Fields issue 

Post#69 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:20 am

Fields can over think things.

JR not so capable of having that issue.


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Re: Fields issue 

Post#70 » by Gil » Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:34 am

I think it's because JR is the better defensive player.

Fields is more efficient on the offensive end though. He's a better creator than JR is and ball movement always dies when he's taken out.
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Re: Fields issue 

Post#71 » by 21shumpst » Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:43 am

You can't play Landry at the end of games because he can't be relied on to hit his FT's.
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Re: Fields issue 

Post#72 » by Ralphie96 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:13 am

DocZaius wrote:You keep Landry in the game until he starts forcing it. He is what I call a momentum/rhythm player.

However, once he starts going bad, it becomes a snowball and he needs to be removed.

Reinsert him after a period of stagnation, and usually he creates momentum back in our favor.

He is odd in that way but he is definitely a winning type player.


i totally agree with this.
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Re: Fields issue 

Post#73 » by seren » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:57 am

21shumpst wrote:You can't play Landry at the end of games because he can't be relied on to hit his FT's.


yet he is in most of the games in the last five minutes.
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Re: Fields issue 

Post#74 » by GONYK » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:58 am

seren wrote:
21shumpst wrote:You can't play Landry at the end of games because he can't be relied on to hit his FT's.


yet he is in most of the games in the last five minutes.

Not under Woodson
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Re: Fields issue 

Post#75 » by KnicksGod » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:59 am

21shumpst wrote:You can't play Landry at the end of games because he can't be relied on to hit his FT's.



Yet the Bulls still play Rose and Deng ;)
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Re: Fields issue 

Post#76 » by mpharris36 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:00 am

seren wrote:
21shumpst wrote:You can't play Landry at the end of games because he can't be relied on to hit his FT's.


yet he is in most of the games in the last five minutes.



actually since woodson came back he has never played down the stretch. Always is shumpert...the only reason he may play a little more down the stretch is because lin, baron, and amare are all hurt
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Re: Fields issue 

Post#77 » by mpharris36 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:00 am

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DocZaius wrote:You keep Landry in the game until he starts forcing it. He is what I call a momentum/rhythm player.

However, once he starts going bad, it becomes a snowball and he needs to be removed.

Reinsert him after a period of stagnation, and usually he creates momentum back in our favor.

He is odd in that way but he is definitely a winning type player.


i totally agree with this.



sadly i actually agree with berman as well
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Re: Fields issue 

Post#78 » by Thugger HBC » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:00 am

mpharris36 wrote:
seren wrote:
21shumpst wrote:You can't play Landry at the end of games because he can't be relied on to hit his FT's.


yet he is in most of the games in the last five minutes.



actually since woodson came back he has never played down the stretch. Always is shupert...the only reason he may play a little more down the stretch is because lin, baron, and amare are all hurt

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Re: Fields issue 

Post#79 » by mpharris36 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:05 am

^^^

also JR gets the nod over fields as well down the stretch...so does novak especially on the offensive end
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Re: Fields issue 

Post#80 » by 21shumpst » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:36 am

seren wrote:
21shumpst wrote:You can't play Landry at the end of games because he can't be relied on to hit his FT's.


yet he is in most of the games in the last five minutes.


Woody hardly ever plays him down the stretch.

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