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Re: Anyone wanting Woodson renewed, speak up now.

Postby knicksosmoove on Tue May 01, 2012 1:09 am

I don't think his style of basketball wins in this league ... I think you need an offensive system so the offense doesn't degenerate into guys dribbling for 14 seconds only to chuck up a bad shot like ours does

I would see what's out there this summer .... and it doesn't have to be phil jackson
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Postby carayip on Tue May 01, 2012 1:24 am

Will Melo be happy if we don't bring back the coach he endorses and the system he seems to enjoy playing under though?

In this league, superstar always > coach.
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Re: Anyone wanting Woodson renewed, speak up now.

Postby Since89 on Tue May 01, 2012 1:43 am

No Lin
No Shump
Ty Chandler playing at 40%
Amare back
Diddy playing half crippled

You expect his team to beat Miami with this?

What the Knicks need to do is trade Amare for a decent PF who plays D and a SG/SF so we can have said SG/SF off the bench to replace Smith

I'm all for a new coach though, as long as they COACH DEFENSE!

Maybe he could hire an offensive specialist. I think it would work better offensively vs how Woodson was used defensively because they will always be forced to play D under him
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Re: Anyone wanting Woodson renewed, speak up now.

Postby GONYK on Tue May 01, 2012 1:43 am

Since89 wrote:
What the Knicks need to do is trade Amare for a decent PF who plays D and a SG/SF so we can have said SG/SF off the bench to replace Smith


Like who?
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Re: Anyone wanting Woodson renewed, speak up now.

Postby Since89 on Tue May 01, 2012 1:46 am

GONYK wrote:
Since89 wrote:
What the Knicks need to do is trade Amare for a decent PF who plays D and a SG/SF so we can have said SG/SF off the bench to replace Smith


Like who?


Haven't looked :dontknow:

We need role players around Lin, Shump, Melo, and Chandler
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Re: Anyone wanting Woodson renewed, speak up now.

Postby GONYK on Tue May 01, 2012 1:48 am

Since89 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Since89 wrote:
What the Knicks need to do is trade Amare for a decent PF who plays D and a SG/SF so we can have said SG/SF off the bench to replace Smith


Like who?


Haven't looked :dontknow:

We need role players around Lin, Shump, Melo, and Chandler


The reason I ask is because it's easy to trade Amare for some mythical PF who plays D and swingman off the bench, but I think if you actually look for actual players who fit that mold to trade for, you'll see moving Amare isn't happening.
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Re: Anyone wanting Woodson renewed, speak up now.

Postby DaRooster8 on Tue May 01, 2012 2:11 am

I still like Woodson. He didn't make Chandler get the flu or Shump blow out his knee. This was always going to be tough for him. He had to go from dopey D'Antoni ball to a real basketball team. I thought he did very well in the regular season. I did not expect the Knicks to play as well as they did under him. I think he's a good hard nosed coach---the question is...Do we have players on this roster that want to play defense?
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Re: Anyone wanting Woodson renewed, speak up now.

Postby Clyde_Style on Tue May 01, 2012 2:55 am

Whether or not he should be retained, Shump's injury, Chandler's illness, Amare's bad judgment, Lin's absence are not on him. He did a good job until fate intervened, so we'll never be able to use these playoffs as a fair basis for judging him.
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Re: Anyone wanting Woodson renewed, speak up now.

Postby tankimin on Tue May 01, 2012 3:12 am

Clyde_Style wrote:Whether or not he should be retained, Shump's injury, Chandler's illness, Amare's bad judgment, Lin's absence are not on him. He did a good job until fate intervened, so we'll never be able to use these playoffs as a fair basis for judging him.


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Re: Anyone wanting Woodson renewed, speak up now.

Postby rdogg1026 on Tue May 01, 2012 5:48 am

He definitely deserves to be renewed. It's not his fault Melo is sucking and trying to match LeBron.

Also not his fault Lin went down, and Amare self-imploded.

Also Chandler getting the Flu is not his fault.

Give the man major credit for what he's been able to do.
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Postby carayip on Tue May 01, 2012 6:02 am

Someone nailed it. We seem to go from one extreme to the complete other. MDA was all about ball movement to Woodson all about ISO. MDA was all about offense to Woodson all about defense. One couldn't get Melo to play to another who doesn't seem to know how to use Amare. Why can we never get somewhere in between... :-?
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Re: Anyone wanting Woodson renewed, speak up now.

Postby hatnlvr on Tue May 01, 2012 6:30 am

Let's wait until the series is over to make a call on this one. Woody has done a good job since taking over and I don't think 2 games should negate that. Let's see what the Knicks do on their homecourt
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Re: Anyone wanting Woodson renewed, speak up now.

Postby Knicksfan20 on Tue May 01, 2012 6:49 am

Speaking.
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Re: Anyone wanting Woodson renewed, speak up now.

Postby Pharmcat on Tue May 01, 2012 6:55 am

his PO record is very questionable

the lack of O creativity is also undesirable

I guess a one year extension is fine to see how he does with a TC, but Im not sure hes longterm solution
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Re: Anyone wanting Woodson renewed, speak up now.

Postby Slamm Goodbody on Tue May 01, 2012 7:00 am

How is it Woodson's fault that our best team defender and starting shooting guard is out until October, our second best team defender has the flu, and our third best team defender is limited to 15 minutes a game because of a knee injury he rushed back from. This is on top of our starting point guard out and our backup point guard missing swaths of game time with a back injury that is clearly limiting him during games.

Every team gets injuries so at some level injuries are no excuse, but we're the walking wounded up against the best team of the league. This would be a very different series against Chicago or Indiana. What Woodson did with a 75% healthy squad was enough for me to say he deserves a contract extension, regardless of what happens in the playoffs.
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