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JR VERSE SMITH ARE YOUR KIDDING ME. Crawford is a much better player then jr smith. Jr might be a better defender but jamal is a better scorer and can create. JR did a bunch od dumb **** last year.
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KNIXFAN_83 wrote:JR VERSE SMITH ARE YOUR KIDDING ME. Crawford is a much better player then jr smith. Jr might be a better defender but jamal is a better scorer and can create. JR did a bunch od dumb **** last year.
Crawford shoots more. That doesn't make him a better scorer. Crawford is basically a jump shooter at this point in his career. Create? For himself Smith is by far the better creator. For others? In roughly the same amount of minutes Crawford averaged only .8 apg more than Smith and had a worse assist-to-turnover ratio than Smith so he really wasn't that much better a creator for others either. And people think Smith shot poorly last season? Crawford shot 38% from the field and 30% from 3. This isn't the 26 year old Crawford that played for the Knicks, this is the 32 year old Crawford that looked old and one dimensional that played for the Blazers. Yes, if we were talking about the 26 year old Crawford or 26 year old Smith, you may be right. But we're not.
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The only thing Crawford does better than JR Smith is handle the ball.
PG: Chris Paul/Gary Neal/Ish Smith
SG: Courtney Lee/Reggie Williams/Omri Casspi
SF: Gordon Hayward/Mike Dunleavy/Earl Clark
PF: Kevin Love/Darrell Arthur/Jan Vesely
C: Tiago Splitter/Greg Stiemsma/Nazr Mohammed
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Smith may be a better defender but i just wanted to point out that Smith is not a good defender either.
He gives effort but takes some of the worst fouls I have ever seen. He especially loved fouling guys behind the 3 point line. He is too aggressive.
So while I may want Smith over Crawford, its not by much.
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JR plays defense and rebounds -- plus he is much younger.
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Not only would I prefer JR, but we can sign JR for around $3 mil (120% of his last deal) without touching our exceptions (or he could just opt in).
Unlike most, I would take Crawford if we lost JR.... however I wouldn't say I want him that badly. I wanted him last off-season because I knew we'd need more scorers/ball handler (and I was right!) and he would've come at a discount.
FWIW Crawford had some pretty good years in Atlanta under Woodson. He thrived in the iso ball and basically played took turns with Joe Johnson playing iso. And I do remember him hitting some big game winners for Atlanta... but I still would be a little weary about him coming.
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We had the poor shooting Smith last year... I'd like to have the good shooting Jr Smith next year even though him and Woody drove me crazy.
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They are very similar in that both play a losing style of basketball... and apparently are deaf to coaching. They don't belong in any championship-level team rotation no matter how you slice it.
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NySpartan4 wrote:JR can be a lot more dangerous when he gets hot than Jamal. HoweverJamal is more clutch. Having both come off the bench would be like the battle of 6th man of the year. Jamal is a better passer but a little bit more passive. JR i better on the D. They're both ver similar type of players.
Crawford seems to have this rep that somehow he is clutch. I have to wonder where it comes from. I would like to find anyone to present any evidence that he, during crunch time has above average performance. If I recall correctly, when I did look into it, he is below average in crunch time. He doesn't have a notable shooting percentage. Oh yes, he does chuck a lot, and isn't afraid to chuck, but I don't get where fearless chucking = being clutch.
If someone can show where he actually steps up performance wise in crunch time, please do so. Else, I think it is a case of his fans having selective memory of the times he made shots. They remember the 3 out of 10 times he made a 3 in the closing seconds, and think it is 6 out of 10.
There is a reason why people have a rep for something..right? Like Crawford has a bad rep for being a bad defender. I am sure there were times he has played good D..whether it is covering his man, or slapping the ball out of someone's hand, or fighting for a rebound. But that doesnt change his bad defense overall. Does it?
Same way, he has a rep for being clutch because...he is. He had several buzzer beaters when he played for Chicago. Had a lot when he played for the Knicks and has had a few with the Hawks. I havent followed him much after.
As for actual numbers, NBA does not have a section for "buzzer beaters" or else I'd post it for you. However, a quick search for jamal crawford buzzer beaters in youtube gives you plenty of videos you can see for yourself.
Rich, grow up already. Quit hating. If someone is good, give'em credit for it. No one is saying Crawford is the best player ever. So chill.
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knicks1973 wrote:They are very similar in that both play a losing style of basketball... and apparently are deaf to coaching. They don't belong in any championship-level team rotation no matter how you slice it.
I didn't know one player is responsible for a team losing. Wasn't Crawford the former 6th man of the league? They give that award to players on winning teams. You're fitting in beautifully around here.
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Dru wrote:Smith actually plays defense, so he's def the better fit.
I was actually surprised at how well he played defense (this is an aspect of his game that you really didn't see in Denver). I'd like to keep Smith around if possible.
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Crawford is a much better playmaker for others, and knows when to rein it in, even if he does get his chuck on. I'd much rather have him than JR. It's not even close.
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I definitely do not want Jamal Crawford. He is a terribly inefficient shooter even less efficient than J.R. He is old and doesn't play a lick of defense.
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I wouldn't mind Crawford, but he just opted out of a deal that would've payed him 4 or 5 million next year. He's probably looking for a long term deal at around 4-5 million per, which we can't give. If JR opts out, he'd be looking at the same.
As far as playing style and fit, the edge goes to Crawford. He didn't have the best year shooting wise, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be better with a different core. He runs the pick and roll much better than JR, and can be just as explosive offensively. Defensively JR wins the battle. For now, JR wins the shooting battle also. And he wins the battle in terms of cost, because if we have JR, it probably means he opted into his deal @ $2.5 million.
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