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Re: Phil Jackson speaks!

Postby Manitoba on Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:47 am

crazybranman360 wrote:Bill Simmons ‏@sportsguy33
2 Dolan never even considered Jackson. Dolan's biggest fear in life = employing someone who is smarter and more popular than him.

:lol: :lol: :( So true!

crazybranman360 wrote:Bill Simmons ‏@sportsguy33
1 I'm enjoying Phil Jackson's revisionist "I never wanted the Knicks job" routine. He wanted it. Sent out multiple feelers thru 3rd parties.

I think Phil wanted the Knicks job too. The good news: Phil must have thought the tean was fixable, or he would never have considered moving to NYC.
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Re: Phil Jackson speaks!

Postby ShumpShump on Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:51 am

Name me one story Bill Simmons has ever gotten correct in his life. Then maybe I will take his word seriously. When it's him and Tommy Dee as the only people reporting the same thing I tend not to believe it. The two of them pulled and incarcerated Bob. Make a blanket statement that you always have a way to retract or back up no matter what the outcome is.
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Re: Phil Jackson speaks!

Postby knicks1973 on Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:51 am

If I am Phil Jackson I wouldn't want to work for James Dolan. Phil Jackson has 11 rings as a coach and 2 rings as a player... what has James Dolan accomplished? It's a fair question... and the answer is "nothing." All he has is his money and money is not the only factor in making a well-informed decision. There is who do you work for, who do you work with, what is the goal of the business, and how feasible the goal is. There are others I guess but these are pretty important.

No amount of Dolan's money would ever bring Phil Jackson here, clumsy roster or not... only autonomy would bring Jackson here. As exemplified by all of Dolan's conduct, men of real accomplishment and reputation like Donnie Walsh and Phil Jackson would demand autonomy in writing. That is not what James Dolan is all about.

No, this is coach Woodson's team now... all he needs to do is earn the reputation that Phil Jackson already has by leading this team to the ECF next season... and all this will be forgotten.
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Re: Phil Jackson speaks!

Postby biggyfuzz on Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:52 am

I cant really respect a coach that had the players he had and win 11 rings.

I mean is it him or was it the top 50 players he had on his team
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Re: Phil Jackson speaks!

Postby j4remi on Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:28 pm

The Knicks personnel outside of Melo really wasn't a great fit for Phil's coaching style and there were plenty of discussions about it. I don't think he would have wanted to come in unless he could get wholesale changes to the roster to better suit his style and I doubt Dolan would be willing to go through another rebuild.
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Re: Phil Jackson speaks!

Postby melo mvp 15 on Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:42 pm

j4remi wrote:The Knicks personnel outside of Melo really wasn't a great fit for Phil's coaching style and there were plenty of discussions about it. I don't think he would have wanted to come in unless he could get wholesale changes to the roster to better suit his style and I doubt Dolan would be willing to go through another rebuild.

Do you really think the 66(67?) year old Phil Jackson wanted to coach through a rebuild?

He would've taken this roster and the only trade he probably would've made is Amar'e for maybe Brand or something.

And Phil's comments only make me believe that he did want the job. It's actually pretty amusing because it seems that he's all pissy for never getting the offer.
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Re: Phil Jackson speaks!

Postby lleepar on Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:51 pm

Knicks, Phil Jackson not in contact
Updated: March 15, 2012, 8:05 AM ET
By Ramona Shelburne and Marc Stein - ESPN.com

[Excerpt:] "Amid widespread speculation that Jackson is Dolan's No. 1 target for the job, one source close to the situation told ESPN.com on Wednesday that Jackson would likely be "fascinated" by the prospect of "how the Knicks' (current) personnel would fit in his system."

The source also said that Knicks point guard Jeremy Lin was on Jackson's radar last season when Lin was a rookie with the Golden State Warriors, which fits with Jackson's longstanding preference for big ballhandlers in his backcourt."

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Re: Phil Jackson speaks!

Postby UnderdogKnicks on Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:52 pm

He is definitely bitter but I think it's more with the Knicks not even offering him a job and he felt disrespected. He wanted the Knicks to bow down to him and treat him as the savior of the Knicks and that appeases him. I didn't think he would be coaching the Knicks anyway.
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Phil Jackson speaks!

Postby Knicks_Fan2 on Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:14 pm

ShumpShump wrote:Name me one story Bill Simmons has ever gotten correct in his life. Then maybe I will take his word seriously. When it's him and Tommy Dee as the only people reporting the same thing I tend not to believe it. The two of them pulled and incarcerated Bob. Make a blanket statement that you always have a way to retract or back up no matter what the outcome is.


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Re: Phil Jackson speaks!

Postby KnicksGod on Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:19 pm

Bill Simmons ‏@sportsguy33
2 Dolan never even considered Jackson. Dolan's biggest fear in life = employing someone who is smarter and more popular than him.




Then why did he hire Larry Brown?
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Re: Phil Jackson speaks!

Postby j4remi on Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:24 pm

melo mvp 15 wrote:
j4remi wrote:The Knicks personnel outside of Melo really wasn't a great fit for Phil's coaching style and there were plenty of discussions about it. I don't think he would have wanted to come in unless he could get wholesale changes to the roster to better suit his style and I doubt Dolan would be willing to go through another rebuild.

Do you really think the 66(67?) year old Phil Jackson wanted to coach through a rebuild?

He would've taken this roster and the only trade he probably would've made is Amar'e for maybe Brand or something.

And Phil's comments only make me believe that he did want the job. It's actually pretty amusing because it seems that he's all pissy for never getting the offer.


When I say rebuild, I'm not saying from scratch. He would have wanted the roster "retooled" if that's a better word for you. The parts on this roster didn't suit his triangle well, Amare being the most glaring piece though.
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Re: Phil Jackson speaks!

Postby ORANGEandBLUE on Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:27 pm

ShumpShump wrote:Name me one story Bill Simmons has ever gotten correct in his life. Then maybe I will take his word seriously. When it's him and Tommy Dee as the only people reporting the same thing I tend not to believe it. The two of them pulled and incarcerated Bob. Make a blanket statement that you always have a way to retract or back up no matter what the outcome is.

Off the top of my head:

- Melo to the Knicks
- and believe he called Howard staying with the Magic.
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Re: Phil Jackson speaks!

Postby Red Vines on Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:30 pm

For an old guy who has accomplished so much, he still sure acts like a petty child--he's not even in the league and he's taking shots at our team. Get a life.
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Re: Phil Jackson speaks!

Postby GONYK on Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:52 pm

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:
ShumpShump wrote:Name me one story Bill Simmons has ever gotten correct in his life. Then maybe I will take his word seriously. When it's him and Tommy Dee as the only people reporting the same thing I tend not to believe it. The two of them pulled and incarcerated Bob. Make a blanket statement that you always have a way to retract or back up no matter what the outcome is.

Off the top of my head:

- Melo to the Knicks
- and believe he called Howard staying with the Magic.


Sheridan and Tierney broke Melo to NY, not Simmons

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Re: Phil Jackson speaks!

Postby ComboGuardCity on Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:53 pm

Melo to the Knicks was speculated by everybody since 2009.
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