OT: Music Industry secret Meeting

[richardhutnik]

So the core of the conspiracy is for rappers to do music that convince a generation of youth that doing behavior that will get them thrown in prison is cool? Is that what I actually ready?

I can understand possibly that drug laws are the new Jim Crow, and the pass them and do selective law enforcement to get you black men in jail. But to get them to believe that music persuades black males to do things that would get them in prison is seriously pushing it.

[Loisl]

Either this story is fake or this guy is plain stupid. If telling this stoy is so dangerous, why would he describe every detail of the incident as well as him being one of the guys who got thrown out of the meeting? I wonder how many Europeans (or other people who settled down in Europe) lived in America during the time of this meeting... I think if you take a look at all the individual and unique details he tells about himself (being a decision maker, the meeting, him coming from and going back to Europe, etc), tracking him down should be very easy.

[Knick4Real]

I don't know if this particular story is true or not, but conspiracies like this DO EXIST, primarily because most of us are quick to judge and not believe it because it seems too crazy. But sometimes the more outlandish something seems, the more factual and real it is.

For example: 40 years ago the Ku Klux Klan used to kill black men. But then they got smart and learned how to introduce hierarchy and power struggles in black neighborhoods via gangs, so that black men would do the job for them and simply kill each other. Their ability to get black men to turn on each other over territory and respect was one of the most remarkable scams ever, since many black gang members still don't realize they were set up and used to do the job racists once did themselves.

AIDS is another example, which many believe was not an accident but a purposely introduced germ to cleanse homosexuals from society. The fact it got out of control and spread beyond just the homosexual community was probably never considered.

Music is VERY powerful and is the universal language. It can wake you up, it can put you to sleep, it can calm you, it can put you in the mood for sex, it can subliminally cause you to buy in a grocery store, it can even put you at ease on an elevator or airplane. So, hearing a story about music prompting crimes for financial gain is not at all impossible and is probably more likely than we'll ever know.

[Teppler]

Good read. Unfortunately there's no shortage of conspiracy hoaxes out there but I do believe there are people out there controlling and profiting off the tides of humanity. It can be done therefore I assume it is being done. Mind control is extremely powerful and gets to be impossible to prove once people have broken it down to a very subtle level.

Truth is freedom the way we grew up understanding the concept is an illusion. Man can be broken down to a system of mathematical equations and there's people out there who can put the numbers together in some way that elevates them above the rest.

Any way sorry to be mr tin foil hat but that's my two cents on a subject I've been into for a while now.

[jeremylin17]

why would they invest in prisons when it doesnt earn income? LOL Im sure the govt doesnt want feeding prisoners

[Teppler]

why would they invest in prisons when it doesnt earn income? LOL Im sure the govt doesnt want feeding prisoners

[Quick Kick]

Makes sense. Explains why groups like Public Enemy and Brand Nubian were phased out and replaced with a bunch of droolimg milksop rappers rappin about guns and whips in every.single.verse.

Besides that, what Im more interested in is the disgusting, culture killing trend of rappers being forced to rap over TECHNO AND HOUSE BEATS in order to get on the radio. These vampiric record execs are doing their hardest to blur the line between techno dance music and hip hop...if not kill off hip hop forever. Theyre trying to steal the soul out of music and replace it with rhythmless, soulless bullsh!t Im just glad I was a child of the 80s and was able to grow up on music with passion and feeling.

[thegreat0ne81]

What kills me about this is the dude got thrown out before any real information was stated. He even admits he does not know what was going on. This is all fueled by imagination.

The music business is dirty. Been dirty from before hip hop. To be more specific, talented acts from poor inner city neighborhoods being exploited and taken advantage of in the 60s and 70s. Maybe even earlier. And it still goes on today.

A 50k cash advance and 3-8% royalty payments is standard for most new acts. When you sign a deal you sign over your rights. Your creation does not belong to you. It belongs to them. And in return they give you pennies on the dollar.

But thats a whole nother story.

Getting back to this. A person with criminal intentions does not need much motivation. Its true music has influenced people to do things they might not normally do. For better and for worse. Its no different than the power rangers show that had little kids out there kicking each others asses in the projects.

It would not surprise me at all if a group of private prison owners reached out to some record companies seeking investments or partnership. I think we all have been offered a bad business proposal before. So I wont act as if this is way to off the wall to believe.

But the dude who is trying to blow the whistle on something that he claims happened over 20 years ago was not even in the room long enough to know what was being proposed. He heard the first few lines of the proposal and got kicked out. So what does he know?

Lets say it did happen. Its still his imagination. He has so little information on it, nothing can be done. So whats the point? Clear your mind of what your imagination filled?

If the point is that the music business is in bed with some bad people, and doing some bad things, I will point to the grass and say its green.

And I can kill this thing once and for all. The meeting was in 91. 3-4 years later hip POP took the world by storm. Gangster rap was fought off by politicians. You didnt turn the radio on and hear spice 1 or kool g rapp. You heard mase. Puff daddy.

Radio and music television HEAVILY censored songs and videos. If you wanted the raw gangster content you had to purchase the record. So when he says the airways were flooded with gangster rap in a attempt to brainwash people to go into private prisons its almost funny.

Really 91-94 was the golden era. Most of the music at that time was b-boy hip hop. The beats and even lyrics became more complex over the boom bap tr808 produced sounds of the 80s.

During this time hop hop was growing and everyone and their mother was doing what they could to get a piece of it. Soft drinks. Fast food. Clothing makers. Snacks. Everyone was trying to get a piece.

And the record companies were ripping most of if not all those artists off. BAD.

So really I dont see the point. The music business is dirty. What else is new. The guy was not even in the room long enough to know exactly what was going on and who was involved. He dont know nothing. He should write a article about how much it REALLY costs a record company to finance a record. How much they REALLY make. And how much they pay the creators of the product. There is so much dirt and drugs in music. So many creative but emotionally damaged people being taken advantage of till they are broke and half way dead.

I messed around in music for many years in the 90s. Its dirty. Always has and always will be.

I think this guy let his imagination get the best of him for 20 plus years. I hope he feels better getting it off his chest. Good read. But really pointless and factless.

This is right on the money. The 90s was dominated by pop rap from Puffy. Gangsta rap was non-existant in the mainstream. I grew up in the 90s and I can tell you no one was about shooting up stuff and going to jail. Everyone was about mo money mo problems and wearing the colorful crap that puffy wore and trying to get that money so they can be in limos and mansions.

This article is idiotic and pointless.

[2010]

So I'm guessing sometime after 1998 for fear of gangsta rap growing uncontrollably and being a major influence on the suburban youth (as well as the sons/daughters of those at that meeting) they held another and reversed course, planting the seeds for the current "Hipster Hop" movement to ghey-up the game?

[Jan_Sobieski]

Good news!

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High wizard of the Golden Dawn?

[Clyde_Style]

Good news!

I just signed a gay rapper who is also a high wizard of The Golden Dawn. My record label, By Any Deal Necessary, will release this new artist, Gay-Z, next month. The record is called Back Door Magic and the first single will be Gecko He Do You, a duet with Japanese turntable master Rice Cracka.

High wizard of the Golden Dawn?

You are evidently Crowley deficient.

[truth serum]

Good read. Unfortunately there's no shortage of conspiracy hoaxes out there but I do believe there are people out there controlling and profiting off the tides of humanity. It can be done therefore I assume it is being done. Mind control is extremely powerful and gets to be impossible to prove once people have broken it down to a very subtle level.

Truth is freedom the way we grew up understanding the concept is an illusion. Man can be broken down to a system of mathematical equations and there's people out there who can put the numbers together in some way that elevates them above the rest.

Any way sorry to be mr tin foil hat but that's my two cents on a subject I've been into for a while now.

Word!

[HawthorneWingo]

The whole private prison thing - and filling them up and keeping them filled - is true. We had juvenile judges in Luzerne County, PA, get arrested, charged, convicted and jailed over sending kids to jail on BS criminal complaints, i.e real stupid shyt that kids would normally get school detention for, if anything. The judges were receiving kickbacks from the "prison" depending on the number of kids they put away. The more kids that went to jail, the more money the judges got.

So is that far fetched? Homey don't think so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal

[Quick Kick]

This is right on the money. The 90s was dominated by pop rap from Puffy. Gangsta rap was non-existant in the mainstream. I grew up in the 90s and I can tell you no one was about shooting up stuff and going to jail. Everyone was about mo money mo problems and wearing the colorful crap that puffy wore and trying to get that money so they can be in limos and mansions.

This article is idiotic and pointless.

Not completely true. The West Coast was selling a ton more records than the East in the early-mid 90s. Puffs shyt didnt really come into play until 97 or 98. By that time, the West was dying out, but in the years prior, dudes like Spice 1, MC Eiht, Quik, E-40, etc were selling millions and had a huge influence on the youth. Then in 97, Master P blew up and boom, Southern gangsta shyt took over and has been the music of choice for nearly two decades while NYC "lyrically lyrical" rappers have long become extinct, because record execs want kids to be stupid and grow up to be criminals.

[Jmonty580]

Very intersting read.

Makes you wonder, i know i'm not the only thinking there are many other topics to rap about then money hoes and clothes (drugs). Now rap is a bit more mixed with softer stuff, but its all ageneda based music, basically brain washing kids (and in some cases grown men) into behaving a certain way, living a certain way and buying certain products.

I just have to wonder with every third kid wanting to be a rapper why we dont hear a greater variety of subjects. This article explains it pretty much. You'd just think that from a money stand point someone different like a political rapper, or a religous rapper could become really popular and make a company alot of money, but we just dont see anyone backing anyone like that.