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by moocow007 on Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:59 pm
Flaming Mo wrote:moocow007 wrote:Yeah, this is draft is not likely to produce any top stars. None of the bunch of Noel, McClemore, Muhammad, Zeller, Len, etc. strike me as star players. One or more might make an All-Star appearance but, honestly, none of them have the same impact potential as the top picks from previous drafts. Marcus Smart might end up being the most productive out of the bunch TBH.
Where this draft potentially has some push is late 1st into the early 2nd rounds with guys that could become good role players...and perhaps a couple guys that could blossom but is otherwise raw right now. Not bad news for the Knicks.
Good call, I think he and Anthony Bennett from UNLV have the highest ceiling right now. I really like Noel, he is much closer to Anthony Davis than many people realize but they underestimate him because his team does not have as much success. Not saying he is as good but he should do very very well in the NBA and I could see him one day having a Tyson Chandler type impact on defense with maybe little better offense.
McLemore is a lights out shooter and very fluid athlete but he has to show more in terms of going one on one because that what separates role players from impact players in the NBA. Agreed absolutely on the prospects in the later first/early second. Teams will reach for potential overlooking some solid prospects and in the end there is still a big talent pool out there.
Yeah Anthony Bennet is pretty impressive and is the one guy that, if he can get his head straight, can be the best of the class.
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by yaboynyp on Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:11 am
One could make a strong argument for MCW having the most upside honestly.. 6’6 and with his passing and athleticism he could be a problem at PG.. Obviously his shooting isn’t elite but that’s probably the easiest skill to improve in the pro's
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by Flaming Mo on Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:50 pm
Keep an eye on Johnny O'Bryant from LSU... strong big with a great skillset, true post player and is really putting in some work this season...
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by moocow007 on Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:47 pm
Would be cool if the Knicks can maybe acquire another late 1st and a 2nd and end up with Deng, Nash and Russ Smith.
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by Fischella on Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:02 am
I want Reggie Bullock with our pick.
Great shooter, great defender, good rebounder, 6'6 can play SG and SF, high character kid.
He would fit right in.
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by Flaming Mo on Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:53 am
Fischella wrote:I want Reggie Bullock with our pick.
Great shooter, great defender, good rebounder, 6'6 can play SG and SF, high character kid.
He would fit right in.
Both he and Hairston should make good pros... McAdoo not so much...
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by yaboynyp on Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:07 pm
moocow007 wrote:Would be cool if the Knicks can maybe acquire another late 1st and a 2nd and end up with Deng, Nash and Russ Smith.
Nah slim… Keep Russ Smith the hell away from any team I support please.. I’m just trying to watch a basketball game not catch a Cardiac Arrest or some chit..
Nash, I like my SF to be able to make a shot outside of 15ft..
Dieng I could live with..
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by SkyMason21 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:45 am
Good three good games from the top 5 teams (Missed the Miami game and a few that I wished i could have watched).
Indiana vs Michigan State
Zeller faded in and out of effectiveness all night, started both halves strong but disappeared for stretches all night. Made shots from midrange which was nice to see and got transition buckets like usual, but wasn't really effective in the post.
Oladipo was everywhere defensively in the first half. 4 early deflections and a transition block. He scored on afew drives but still mostly straight line drives. Coughed it up 2-3 times when driving and wasn't a factor in the second half until around the 8 minute mark. Made a solid drive, steal & save to get a transition dunk, and a late tip in to help secure the win for Indiana.
Brandon Dawson was aggressive early with acouple nice drives, but spent the rest of the night missing quite a few layups.
Gray Harris was great all night except for his 3 pt shooting. Made shots around the basket on drives (or drew fouls) and got in the passing lanes well.
Valentine was great on the boards all night and pulled down 3-4 in traffic. Got going offensively in the second half creating for teammates some, and made 2-3 of his fgs plus all his fts. Contained Oladipo a few times in the second half, but gave up that easy tip in late one of the only times he didn't box out.
I'm moving on to the Adreian Payne fan club now. Made 3 3 pointers and rebounded well all night, but might have cost Michgan State the game with his early fould trouble. Love his mobility and how comfortably he can move defending switch outside. Felt like he stuck to his man too much sometimes when he could have helped prevent easy drives.
Florida vs Missouri
Game looked like a blowout early but, Laurence Bowers got the back in it quick by exploiting Florida's lack of size. Florida got the game back under control but then collapsed alittle in the last 6-7 minutes to let Missouri get the win.
Bowers did a good good of either attacking Prather in the post or facing up on Young/Murphy when given space. Wasn't one of the guys I was scouting so I can't say how he did defensively.
Other than his 2 late fouls and someone of the Bowers post ups, Casey Prather had a fantastic game (4th straight good game since hes had to step into Yeguete's role). Incredible acting defensively forcing turnovers on a few of the post ups against him and getting two blocks while defending in the post. Made a hook shot on a quick post feed, got a steal & transition dunk, and made a 17 ft jumper. Pulled down a lot of boards for a 6-5 guy as well. Sadly 2 quick fouls in the middle of the second half got him sent to the bench for the rest of the night.
I'm interested to see if with Yeguete returning in a week or so if Donovan will be able to find him minutes where he can defend on the perimeter. He definitely has the motor and athleticism but hasn't gotten the opportunity due to his lack of shooting ability
Scottie Wilbekin continues to interest me. Shut down Pressey for pretty much the whole night (didn't guard him on zone possesions and occasional transition mismatches but otherwise was the primary defender on him). Unless he got stone walled on a screen (happened 4-5 times) he usually did a great job of fighting over screens, cutting off Pressey's drives in isolation, forcing Pressey into the help on P&Rs, and keeping him from finding any clean looks until the middle of the second half (Pressey had 3 TOs & 0 fg attempts in the first). In my notes I have him with 3 steals/deflections but the box score says zero.
Offensively he need to improve his floater and get better making jumpers off the dribble, but his true role is really a shot creator. Created tons of looks for shooters off drives all night but many of them were missed. Definitely think he could fit as a pg in our small ball line ups and actually gets used in a similar way in post up plays like Felton and Kidd do for us. The fact that he is a 19 year old Junior also doesn't hurt his chance for improvement.
Other two guys I planned on writing about didn't really do much game. Alex Oriakhi was a non factor other than two early buckets and 3-4 boards.
Patric Young was great defensively in P&Rs, in post ups & a couple isos (other than giving Bowers too much space late). Set great screens all night and actually dives hard to the rim (didn't really position himself great to get passes rolling tho). Lackluster rebounding numbers as usually but the effort was there, he boxes out and fight for boards but he's just not great on the glass. The motor is there but the numbers aren't.

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by BRIGGS on Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:19 pm
My Mock top 14 lottery Feb 20 2013
1. Kelly Olynck C/PF Gonzaga
2. Ben Mclemore SG Kansas
3. Anthony Bennett PF UNLV
4. Cody Zeller Pf Indiana
5. Victor Olapido G Indiana
6 Nate Wolters PG S Dakota State
7. Marcus Smart PG Oklhoma
8. Shabazz Muhammed SG UCLA
9 Alex Len C Maryland
10 Mason Plumlee PF Duke
11 Nerlen Noels C Kentucky
12 Michael Carter Williams PG Syracuse
13 Trey Burke PG Michigan
14 Isiah Austin C/PF Baylor
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by yaboynyp on Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:34 pm
BRIGGS wrote:My Mock top 14 lottery Feb 20 2013
1. Kelly Olynck C/PF Gonzaga
2. Ben Mclemore SG Kansas
3. Anthony Bennett PF UNLV
4. Cody Zeller Pf Indiana
5. Victor Olapido G Indiana
6 Nate Wolters PG S Dakota State
7. Marcus Smart PG Oklhoma
8. Shabazz Muhammed SG UCLA
9 Alex Len C Maryland
10 Mason Plumlee PF Duke
11 Nerlen Noels C Kentucky
12 Michael Carter Williams PG Syracuse
13 Trey Burke PG Michigan
14 Isiah Austin C/PF Baylor
Wolters is a nice player but if anyone picks him at number 6 that’s a instafire… He’s a second rounder at best right now
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by hotsore on Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:06 pm
Oiedepo reminds me of MJ...he has insane athleticism and movement skills from a - b.He needs to get better on offense,but skies the limit.
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by BRIGGS on Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:36 am
yaboynyp wrote:BRIGGS wrote:My Mock top 14 lottery Feb 20 2013
1. Kelly Olynck C/PF Gonzaga
2. Ben Mclemore SG Kansas
3. Anthony Bennett PF UNLV
4. Cody Zeller Pf Indiana
5. Victor Olapido G Indiana
6 Nate Wolters PG S Dakota State
7. Marcus Smart PG Oklhoma
8. Shabazz Muhammed SG UCLA
9 Alex Len C Maryland
10 Mason Plumlee PF Duke
11 Nerlen Noels C Kentucky
12 Michael Carter Williams PG Syracuse
13 Trey Burke PG Michigan
14 Isiah Austin C/PF Baylor
Wolters is a nice player but if anyone picks him at number 6 that’s a instafire… He’s a second rounder at best right now
No way--he'll go lottery. Wait and see.
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by yaboynyp on Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:21 am
BRIGGS wrote:yaboynyp wrote:BRIGGS wrote:My Mock top 14 lottery Feb 20 2013
1. Kelly Olynck C/PF Gonzaga
2. Ben Mclemore SG Kansas
3. Anthony Bennett PF UNLV
4. Cody Zeller Pf Indiana
5. Victor Olapido G Indiana
6 Nate Wolters PG S Dakota State
7. Marcus Smart PG Oklhoma
8. Shabazz Muhammed SG UCLA
9 Alex Len C Maryland
10 Mason Plumlee PF Duke
11 Nerlen Noels C Kentucky
12 Michael Carter Williams PG Syracuse
13 Trey Burke PG Michigan
14 Isiah Austin C/PF Baylor
Wolters is a nice player but if anyone picks him at number 6 that’s a instafire… He’s a second rounder at best right now
No way--he'll go lottery. Wait and see.
Yeah 2 mega millions and 4 quick picks.. Maybe a couple scratchers 2…
Ohhh you meant NBA Lottery?? Cmon son there is no reputable “draftologist” that has kid any where near Lottery.. Oh and no Otto Porter??? smh
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by yaboynyp on Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:24 am
This Georgetown Syracuse game this weekend is gonna be something to see… 35,000 tickets sold.. smh
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by StephNYKurry on Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:27 pm
Been watching Erick Green from Virginia Tech, closely in his last 3 games and I would really like him for us. Can penetrate and is a better passer than he's given credit for. Very Eric Maynor like. He's averaging 25 this year
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