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Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:35 pm
by Knicker23
I wonder if rotating Stat and Chandler for one another is more of a key to acclimating Amare than worrying about Melo and Stat... Chandler isn't out of the game long enough to play Stat good minutes only when Chandler isn't on the floor, but I think it's more about Stat being better at the 5 than it is Melo and Stat 'coexisting' .. Plus you'd have Melo still at the 4 if he were on the court.
At least for the minutes that Chandler is on the bench anyway. The defense would likely prevent it from being sustainable though.
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:51 pm
by Workforce250
Shump should be the one off the bench, period. Brewer comes off the bench, while Stat starts.
That's nuts having a player like Amare come off the bench.
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:11 pm
by DRoberstonNYY
Workforce250 wrote:Shump should be the one off the bench, period. Brewer comes off the bench, while Stat starts.
That's nuts having a player like Amare come off the bench.
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:14 pm
by Workforce250
DRoberstonNYY wrote:Workforce250 wrote:Shump should be the one off the bench, period. Brewer comes off the bench, while Stat starts.
That's nuts having a player like Amare come off the bench.
+1
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:28 pm
by DRoberstonNYY
lets be honest, at this point amare isn't good enough to be in a top teams starting lineup. he does nothing well other than dunk
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:31 pm
by fdr2012
DRoberstonNYY wrote:lets be honest, at this point amare isn't good enough to be in a top teams starting lineup. he does nothing well other than dunk
Amare is a great finisher and he has a sweet jumper. If he comes back from the injury well, we could definitely use his 18ppg-20ppg.
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:34 pm
by DRoberstonNYY
fdr2012 wrote:DRoberstonNYY wrote:lets be honest, at this point amare isn't good enough to be in a top teams starting lineup. he does nothing well other than dunk
Amare is a great finisher and he has a sweet jumper. If he comes back from the injury well, we could definitely use his 18ppg-20ppg.
he shot like under 40% for his jumper last year
he's not that good.. lets be honest.. and he's even worse when he's asked to play the 4.. all of his damage in his career has been done at the 5
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:38 pm
by smha201
D-BE-LAW wrote:Honestly, the funniest thing about this is people actually think that a team is going to beat the miami heat in a 7 game series. Unless lebron gets injured, no one is beating the heat in a series.
I think we beat them if we have home court advantage in the series. Save it, sig it, do whatever the hell you want with it.
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:46 pm
by fdr2012
DRoberstonNYY wrote:he shot like under 40% for his jumper last year
he's not that good.. lets be honest.. and he's even worse when he's asked to play the 4.. all of his damage in his career has been done at the 5
This guy has been a perennial throughout his career. He's good. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt right now. Let's see how he plays next month.
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:47 pm
by Marty McFly
this game is proof that
its a long season.
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:47 pm
by fdr2012
D-BE-LAW wrote:Honestly, the funniest thing about this is people actually think that a team is going to beat the miami heat in a 7 game series. Unless lebron gets injured, no one is beating the heat in a series.
The Heat are beatable. They are not that good, particularly if Wade continues to struggle with injuries.
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:08 pm
by GeneralNbaFan
Amare is still one of the better PFs but he needs assists to score (like Boozer).... He is a good finisher and has a good jumper (And no Im not looking at the stats to define a player....)
With a good pick and roll/pop player he willl be fine
And I think bringing Amare of the bench as the scorer could be a good idea...he should play min. 30 minutes per game.... 20min as pf 10 as Center!
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:54 pm
by jstudabaka
Honestly, Amare could be really useful when you do have the elite scoring PF's on the other side. I think it takes some of the pressure off Melo and makes the PF's work a little harder on the defensive end, having to deal with STAT.
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:39 pm
by Hemispheres
Amar'e is NOT the boogeyman! He's not going to come back and cause the team to implode.
I would like to see him come off the bench cause that's where he fits best. He's most effective as a quick center and his game does not mesh well with Tyson on the court. We also could use another reliable scorer when Melo sits down.
I think a second unit of Prigs/Kidd/Novak/Sheed/Stat would be dominant.
To say he's not a starter quality player though is absurd and typical overreaction of the Knicks fanbase.
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:44 pm
by Retired_Doc
AggO wrote:people...
Amare's size and jumpshooting ability wouldve changed this game.
NONSENSE!
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:46 pm
by fdr2012
Amare hate is ridiculous. We're talking about one of the best offensive PFs in the league. He's going to add a lot to this team.
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:38 am
by prophet_of_rage
Our last sight of Amar'e he shot an efficient 8-11, engaged in defence (not entirely effectively), and stayed in the box on offence unless asked to be the screener in the pick and roll offence. It isn't exactly fair to say that he is useless at this point.
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:40 am
by jstudabaka
The return of Felton should help Amare a great deal. They were a sweet PnR combo.
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:28 am
by KnickMan
The Amare hate is ridiculous in this thread but I am shocked that more posters have not brought up the fact that we need a healthy and in shape Camby as well. I guess we have seen so little of him this year that we forgot just why we signed in the first place (he did show some signs today). It was for post AND perimeter defense; rebounding (both defensive and offensive) and blocking shots. All things that would be critical in a match up a team like the Grizz. A healthy Amare and Camby (along with Shumbert), if Woodson can get everyone on the same page, will make us TRULY elite. We have will have the pieces to match up with just about any team, big or small.
Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:27 am
by GONYK
KnickMan wrote:The Amare hate is ridiculous in this thread but I am shocked that more posters have not brought up the fact that we need a healthy and in shape Camby as well. I guess we have seen so little of him this year that we forgot just why we signed in the first place (he did show some signs today). It was for post AND perimeter defense; rebounding (both defensive and offensive) and blocking shots. All things that would be critical in a match up a team like the Grizz. A healthy Amare and Camby (along with Shumbert), if Woodson can get everyone on the same page, will make us TRULY elite. We have will have the pieces to match up with just about any team, big or small.
Camby provides no perimeter defense. He rarely leaves the paint on D at this point in his career.