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This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship

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Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship 

Post#141 » by KikupKnik » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:44 pm

D-BE-LAW wrote:Amare wont save you against zach randolph, chris bosh, mark gasol.... Hell he can't even stop andrea bargnani. You guys wont win a championship. Hop back on the treadmill.


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Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship 

Post#142 » by NoLayupRule » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:46 pm

D-BE-LAW wrote:Amare wont save you against zach randolph, chris bosh, mark gasol.... Hell he can't even stop andrea bargnani. You guys wont win a championship. Hop back on the treadmill.

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Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship 

Post#143 » by KnickMan » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:27 am

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KnickMan wrote:The Amare hate is ridiculous in this thread but I am shocked that more posters have not brought up the fact that we need a healthy and in shape Camby as well. I guess we have seen so little of him this year that we forgot just why we signed in the first place (he did show some signs today). It was for post AND perimeter defense; rebounding (both defensive and offensive) and blocking shots. All things that would be critical in a match up a team like the Grizz. A healthy Amare and Camby (along with Shumbert), if Woodson can get everyone on the same page, will make us TRULY elite. We have will have the pieces to match up with just about any team, big or small.


Camby provides no perimeter defense. He rarely leaves the paint on D at this point in his career.


Actually he does; that is just not his primary role. If you watched last yesterdays game there were several instances with him guarding players on or near the perimeter based on defensive rotations. He is not as quick as you used to be obviously but his defensive instincts allow him to still do a good job there. To say he provides no perimeter defense is flat out wrong.
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Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship 

Post#144 » by GONYK » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:37 am

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KnickMan wrote:The Amare hate is ridiculous in this thread but I am shocked that more posters have not brought up the fact that we need a healthy and in shape Camby as well. I guess we have seen so little of him this year that we forgot just why we signed in the first place (he did show some signs today). It was for post AND perimeter defense; rebounding (both defensive and offensive) and blocking shots. All things that would be critical in a match up a team like the Grizz. A healthy Amare and Camby (along with Shumbert), if Woodson can get everyone on the same page, will make us TRULY elite. We have will have the pieces to match up with just about any team, big or small.


Camby provides no perimeter defense. He rarely leaves the paint on D at this point in his career.


Actually he does; that is just not his primary role. If you watched last yesterdays game there were several instances with him guarding players on or near the perimeter based on defensive rotations. He is not as quick as you used to be obviously but his defensive instincts allow him to still do a good job there. To say he provides no perimeter defense is flat out wrong.


Well, I'm basing this off of how he played in Houston last year. The dude never left the paint. Ever.

On top of that, it's not like he was guarding out to the 3pt line yesterday either. He stayed below the FT line.
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Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship 

Post#145 » by Knick Swisher » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:48 am

blumatic wrote:The thing is, Amare has always had the physical gifts to be a good defender. Boozer doesnt. He is an undersized power forward with no athleticism. He is slow and short.

Amare was a top 10 in block shots in 2010-2011. Doesnt say much for our perimeter defense but when they came in he would meet them there.

Amare should be a good defender under Woody. STAT is very coachable.

Amare is much like JR Smith. The athleticism, the talent, the scoring ability. There was no coach or group of teammates that demanded so much from their players in the Suns or Nuggets.

Is it a shame that these guys are not self motivated and self initiated. Absolutely. But credit management for understanding that and cure that by surrounding Amare. Melo, and JR with accomplished defensive players.

But STAT should come off the bench for like 15 to 20 games or so.

People forget how much better STAT's defense was when Woodson took over.
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Re: This game is proof we need Amare to win a championship 

Post#146 » by NYKnickerbocker » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:23 am

People act ike amare been a bad shooter his whole career. Ever since he developed the jumpshoting ability.The man has shot higher then 44% from 16-23 feet almost everyear besides last year. Im willing to bet he can get his shot back. I believe amare can help this team. NOt really expecting much on D besides maybe the occasional block. Hope woodsen can work his magic.

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