Steve Novak's trade value?

[JDs_loot]

what would you even want as compensation? as constructed this team is absolutely rolling (with its franchise player only about to play his first game of the season).

novak was, is and remains extremely useful.

I agree that he's useful, but if he's not getting any time, he becomes a luxury. The question is what can we get for him?

[JDs_loot]

Queensbridge.

DaJuan Blair is the other obvious trade. Not saying I'd do it, but that seems about right in terms of trade value. Maybe we get a little more, maybe a little less. But ballpark, we'd be able to get back Artest and Blair type players.

I would do that. IMO Blair is an upgrade over sheed. I don't know if SA would do that, being that they had Novak and cut him.

[Rasho Brezec]

Artest is a nutjob and we're a sane veteran team. Steve Novak was just signed to a new ccontract and is not going anywhere. Aneare is expendable.

[cgmw]

Artest is a nutjob and we're a sane veteran team. Steve Novak was just signed to a new ccontract and is not going anywhere. Aneare is UNTRADEABLE.

Fixed.

[JDs_loot]

Artest is a nutjob and we're a sane veteran team. Steve Novak was just signed to a new ccontract and is not going anywhere. Aneare is UNTRADEABLE.

Fixed.

Agreed!!!

Novak has a higher trader value than Ama're.

[cgmw]

Premise 1:

For defensive reasons, you cannot play Novak at the same time as both Carmelo and Amar'e.

Premise 2:

The total number of minutes where either Carmelo or (healthy) Amar'e but not both are on the floor will not exceed 12-15.

Conclusion: If Amar'e returns healthy, Novak will receive fewer than 12-15 minutes per game.

[Rasho Brezec]

Tomato, tomahto.

[basketboule]

In every game there are like 4-5 plays after a timeout and also stretches where you need Novak on the floor. Even if you use him for 5 mpg only, he still is very valuable. Dude is going nowhere, especially not if you consider that there isn't even a need to be addressed.

[cgmw]

In every game there are like 4-5 plays after a timeout and also stretches where you need Novak on the floor. Even if you use him for 5 mpg only, he still is very valuable. Dude is going nowhere, especially not if you consider that there isn't even a need to be addressed.

Agree completely. Nevertheless, I still expect his role to continue a steady decline. And the OP's question has to do with theoretical trade value, not actual trades. Theoretically, there is in fact a line where the Knicks would receive enough value in return to move Novak.

[Ron Mexico]

Artest is a nutjob and we're a sane veteran team. Steve Novak was just signed to a new ccontract and is not going anywhere. Aneare is expendable.

sane? we lost last night because we are a little unstable (see: crazy sheed). we were unraveling at the end of the spurs game before the miracle comeback.

[Pharmcat]

close game at end, who ya rolling on the O end?

amare melo novak jr felton (or kidd in there somewhere)

have to keep a man on pretty much all of them, which would allow melo to do his thing

novak is needed, he has a very specialized role on this team

[JDs_loot]

close game at end, who ya rolling on the O end?

amare melo novak jr felton (or kidd in there somewhere)

have to keep a man on pretty much all of them, which would allow melo to do his thing

novak is needed, he has a very specialized role on this team

No one's saying he should be traded. Try to keep up.

The question is what's his trade value?

[ORANGEandBLUE]

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IMO he plays left bench.

He can't play at the same time as Amar'e because of defensive liability. The offense is moving further and further away from what he's good at (spacing the floor as a spot-up shooter), and will move even further away when Amar'e returns and we stop posting up Carmelo (because Amar'e can't pass out of the post).

IMO it would be very aggressive, but very wise to move Novak now while his value is still high. The longer we play him in a non-fastbreaking isolation-based offense, the further his value will plummet.

Why not just play him when Melo's on the floor and Amare's on the bench?

[ORANGEandBLUE]

Premise 1:

For defensive reasons, you cannot play Novak at the same time as both Carmelo and Amar'e.

Premise 2:

The total number of minutes where either Carmelo or (healthy) Amar'e but not both are on the floor will not exceed 12-15.

Conclusion: If Amar'e returns healthy, Novak will receive fewer than 12-15 minutes per game.

Disgaree... it's totally plausible that Amare will play 25-30 minutes for health reasons, leaving 18-23 minutes of no-Amare time for Novak to play with Melo.

[JDs_loot]

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IMO he plays left bench.

He can't play at the same time as Amar'e because of defensive liability. The offense is moving further and further away from what he's good at (spacing the floor as a spot-up shooter), and will move even further away when Amar'e returns and we stop posting up Carmelo (because Amar'e can't pass out of the post).

IMO it would be very aggressive, but very wise to move Novak now while his value is still high. The longer we play him in a non-fastbreaking isolation-based offense, the further his value will plummet.

Why not just play him when Melo's on the floor and Amare's on the bench?

What about Sheed and Camby?