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Re: David Lee

Postby HawthorneWingo on Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:35 pm

br7knicks wrote:and david lee coming off the bench? :o


is that Al Harrington coming back to NY? :o :o :o :o :o


i was, and still am, the most anti-harrington guy here years ago. never again



At least Al Harrington plays defense.
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Re: David Lee

Postby makeitstop on Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:06 pm

I don't get a lot of these trade scenarios to begin with.

This team has been together for 7 games, and they've won six of them.

What is this fascination with tinkering? Why not give these guys 20 games and see where they are at that point before dealing out guys?

This board assumes that Stat is not going to work out, but you're willing to take a flyer on guys like Lee and Harrington - whose faults we're all familiar with already.

What if we bring them in and they don't work with this team?
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Re: David Lee

Postby darthkiller on Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:31 am

stopped reading at richard jefferson for affalo
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Re: David Lee

Postby Capn'O on Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:28 am

It's like some of you forget who Amare Stoudemire is.

When he comes back he'll be an actual PF playing PF. Melo slides to the 3. Melo still picks up 6-7 boards, Amare picks up 8, Chandler doesn't have to roam as much because there's a second shotblocker in there. His boards go up.

Boom - we're fine.

I'm telling you - the concern is how to space these guys on the other end. Amare will buy in on D and be in a role that he can manage with Kidd and Chandler calling out covers.


Anyway, **** no on trading him for Lee. Jesus.
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Re: David Lee

Postby knicksNOTslick on Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:34 am

DRoberstonNYY wrote:
knicksNOTslick wrote:David Lee plays no D whatsoever. At least Amare will get you the occasional timely blocks. Neither are good at D so i'm going to pass.

As far as rebounding is concerned, David Lee's rebounds are fool's gold. He's a stat padder and does not box out.

The player that would fit in despite the poor D is Z-Bo, but we all know that's not happening.


We would have to find a young player who needs a change of scenery and develop him if we want a replacement for Amare.


nobody's defense is worse than amare. even dave the doorman

No. Try again. The only thing David Lee has over Amare is rebounding. On D, Amare can have a good defensive play or two in a game. Then he'll forget how to play D for most of the game. David Lee? None.
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Re: David Lee

Postby oaklandwarriors on Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:47 am

As a Warriors fan, I have zero interest in Stoudemire. He's an injury waiting to happen, on a toxic contract, worse than Lee on defense and can't even rebound. Lee is similar to Amare in offence, but Lee actually hits his jumper consistently (Amare sucked last year at that). So I would pass on this deal.
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Re: David Lee

Postby MozTheMan on Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:08 am

youre the guy that makes terrible trade threads. Where is the last one, page 4?
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Re: David Lee

Postby basketboule on Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:18 am

this thread is terrible.
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Re: David Lee

Postby Normalyute on Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:35 am

David Lee? No
I want Z-bo back.
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Re: David Lee

Postby DRoberstonNYY on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:48 am

knicksNOTslick wrote:
DRoberstonNYY wrote:
knicksNOTslick wrote:David Lee plays no D whatsoever. At least Amare will get you the occasional timely blocks. Neither are good at D so i'm going to pass.

As far as rebounding is concerned, David Lee's rebounds are fool's gold. He's a stat padder and does not box out.

The player that would fit in despite the poor D is Z-Bo, but we all know that's not happening.


We would have to find a young player who needs a change of scenery and develop him if we want a replacement for Amare.


nobody's defense is worse than amare. even dave the doorman

No. Try again. The only thing David Lee has over Amare is rebounding. On D, Amare can have a good defensive play or two in a game. Then he'll forget how to play D for most of the game. David Lee? None.


10+ rebounds a game > a block a game
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Re: David Lee

Postby GONYK on Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:37 pm

Rebounding isn't defense. It is rebounding.

Just because David Lee can collect a rebound after someone misses does not mead he can make them miss.
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Re: David Lee

Postby DRoberstonNYY on Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:43 pm

are you serious? rebounding isnt defense? what kind of backwards logic is that? what do you have to do to complete a defensive stop? REBOUND the ball
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Re: David Lee

Postby Knick Swisher on Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:44 pm

makeitstop wrote:I don't get a lot of these trade scenarios to begin with.

This team has been together for 7 games, and they've won six of them.

What is this fascination with tinkering? Why not give these guys 20 games and see where they are at that point before dealing out guys?

This board assumes that Stat is not going to work out, but you're willing to take a flyer on guys like Lee and Harrington - whose faults we're all familiar with already.

What if we bring them in and they don't work with this team?

Didn't you know? EVERYONE knows Amare won't play defense or rebound based on his extensive play so far this year :roll:
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Re: David Lee

Postby GONYK on Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:46 pm

DRoberstonNYY wrote:are you serious? rebounding isnt defense? what kind of backwards logic is that? what do you have to do to complete a defensive stop? REBOUND the ball


So is Kevin Love a great defender? Was Z-Bo a good defender in Portland? Was Melo the best defensive SF in the NBA when he led the position in rebounding?

Rebounding caps a defensive posession, but it doesn't make the rebounder a good defender. It just makes him a good rebounder.
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Re: David Lee

Postby DRoberstonNYY on Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:19 pm

GONYK wrote:
DRoberstonNYY wrote:are you serious? rebounding isnt defense? what kind of backwards logic is that? what do you have to do to complete a defensive stop? REBOUND the ball


So is Kevin Love a great defender? Was Z-Bo a good defender in Portland? Was Melo the best defensive SF in the NBA when he led the position in rebounding?

Rebounding caps a defensive posession, but it doesn't make the rebounder a good defender. It just makes him a good rebounder.


who said david lee was a good defender? where did i say that

what i said is i'll take the 10+ rebounds over the 1 block shot amare gets a game.. neither are defensive stalwharts
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