Page 2 of 8

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:15 am
by hatnlvr
Novak is also suffering from Felton being hurt because he is really the only PG on the roster who can penetrate (Kidd and Prigioni have lost steps and just can't penetrate consistently anymore). Novak hit his shots last night but he really needs to work on his defense and on a consistent move to free himself up for his jumpshot.

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:16 am
by HarthorneWingo
Demote back to ballboy.

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:18 am
by munchies
its interesting to note that he is averaging 6 minutes more than last year but shooting less. he needs more touches. woody should run more plays for him

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:24 am
by YaMomsEx
Since i like your videos im not gonna kick your a$$ for this dumb thread 8-)

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:25 am
by CrazyKnicks
br7knicks wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
Crazyknicks wrote:Novak is overpaid for what he does or doesn't do.

But there's no point in trading him because we're on a 3 year plan regardless. Unless a great deal comes along...

How much do top 5 3pt shooters makes on average?


kyle korver makes about the same. a little more

Then they're both overpaid. Novak is a near league minimum type of player. If he wasn't on the team, Copeland would fill his role just fine

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:28 am
by Sky_Knicks
Lol no. Set him some screens and actually pass him the ball instead. He should be shooting 10 shots per game. That's a better idea.

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:30 am
by Thugger HBC
Crazyknicks wrote:Then they're both overpaid. Novak is a near league minimum type of player. If he wasn't on the team, Copeland would fill his role just fine

I dont think there are too many league minimum players who are in the top 5 in 3pt shooting.

It's a skill that teams has historically paid decent money for.

And no, Copeland cannot fill Novaks role.

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:47 am
by knicksnation1
hatnlvr wrote:Novak is also suffering from Felton being hurt because he is really the only PG on the roster who can penetrate (Kidd and Prigioni have lost steps and just can't penetrate consistently anymore). Novak hit his shots last night but he really needs to work on his defense and on a consistent move to free himself up for his jumpshot.

to Be honest I felt there were a hundred times I wanted Felton to pass the ball to Novak standing in the corner in penetration but he never did. There were those games with melo out Novak rarely get a few shots. I felt melo-novak had more connection than Felton-Novak. But that's just my overall impression.

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:56 am
by CrazyKnicks
Thugger HBC wrote:
Crazyknicks wrote:Then they're both overpaid. Novak is a near league minimum type of player. If he wasn't on the team, Copeland would fill his role just fine

I dont think there are too many league minimum players who are in the top 5 in 3pt shooting.

It's a skill that teams has historically paid decent money for.

And no, Copeland cannot fill Novaks role.

Remember Shawne Williams? The same was said about him. Daequan Cook was recently waived, he's another guy. Spot up shooters are plenty and easy to find.

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:21 am
by Michael_Scott
What a stupid thread. STOP OVERREACTING TO LOSSES TO GOOD TEAMS

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 5:34 am
by Knicks_Fan2
What does his contract have to do with JR?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 7:26 am
by Nostrand Ave
Perfect thread 10/10

Also, can I add that he's only a 3 point shooter but:

1) Can't create his own shot
2) If the Knicks are down 3 points with 1 minute left in the game, we can't go to him to comeback in the game. He doesnt do buzzer beaters. I'm not even sure you can say he's clutch.
3) He's not fit for playoffs.

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 7:41 am
by Bran Fast Hands
Nostrand Ave wrote:Perfect thread 10/10


2) If the Knicks are down 3 points with 1 minute left in the game, we can't go to him to comeback in the game. He doesnt do buzzer beaters. I'm not even sure you can say he's clutch.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

http://youtu.be/GHKWJ8yCqBE

http://youtu.be/N7tsLkcJqO0

http://youtu.be/01-IhogLHNo

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 7:41 am
by gavran
Crazyknicks wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
Crazyknicks wrote:Then they're both overpaid. Novak is a near league minimum type of player. If he wasn't on the team, Copeland would fill his role just fine

I dont think there are too many league minimum players who are in the top 5 in 3pt shooting.

It's a skill that teams has historically paid decent money for.

And no, Copeland cannot fill Novaks role.

Remember Shawne Williams? The same was said about him. Daequan Cook was recently waived, he's another guy. Spot up shooters are plenty and easy to find.

LOL, yeah, because they are in the same universe as Novak in regards of three point shooting. Copeland too, of course. Or Eddy Curry, Let's sign Eddy Curry, he is still a 100% three point shooter.

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 7:54 am
by Nostrand Ave
Bran Fast Hands wrote:
Nostrand Ave wrote:Perfect thread 10/10


2) If the Knicks are down 3 points with 1 minute left in the game, we can't go to him to comeback in the game. He doesnt do buzzer beaters. I'm not even sure you can say he's clutch.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

http://youtu.be/GHKWJ8yCqBE

http://youtu.be/N7tsLkcJqO0

http://youtu.be/01-IhogLHNo



This reply is flawed because you posted videos BEFORE he became popular. 2 out of 3 your videos links was when he wasnt even a Knick. The scouting report is out on him and teams know how to stop him.

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 8:03 am
by gavran
Nostrand Ave wrote:
Bran Fast Hands wrote:
Nostrand Ave wrote:Perfect thread 10/10


2) If the Knicks are down 3 points with 1 minute left in the game, we can't go to him to comeback in the game. He doesnt do buzzer beaters. I'm not even sure you can say he's clutch.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

http://youtu.be/GHKWJ8yCqBE

http://youtu.be/N7tsLkcJqO0

http://youtu.be/01-IhogLHNo



This reply is flawed because you posted videos BEFORE he became popular. 2 out of 3 your videos links was when he wasnt even a Knick. The scouting report is out on him and teams know how to stop him.

Yes, because before he became a regular rotation player, teams didn't know how to defend a slow 3 point specialist. Novak made it hard for every specialist in the league....right?

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 8:34 am
by Bran Fast Hands
Nostrand Ave wrote:
Bran Fast Hands wrote:
Nostrand Ave wrote:Perfect thread 10/10


2) If the Knicks are down 3 points with 1 minute left in the game, we can't go to him to comeback in the game. He doesnt do buzzer beaters. I'm not even sure you can say he's clutch.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

http://youtu.be/GHKWJ8yCqBE

http://youtu.be/N7tsLkcJqO0

http://youtu.be/01-IhogLHNo


Oh so you mean that his guy is gonna stick to him like glue and not go and double team or help against Melo? Sounds good to me.

This reply is flawed because you posted videos BEFORE he became popular. 2 out of 3 your videos links was when he wasnt even a Knick. The scouting report is out on him and teams know how to stop him.


I'd say you first post is incredibly flawed then, since you said he wasn't clutch or couldn't hit buzzer beaters.

Oh and you mean that his man will stick to him like glue and won't leave him to go double team or help against Melo? Sounds good to me.

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 9:34 am
by fdr2012
The Celtics completely abused Novak with his defense. Green scored on him at will.

Teams are going to go at Novak every-time he's on the court and that's something Woodson will have to respond to.

How about trying a zone when Novak is in? We need someway to hide him.

As for Novak being overpaid - Novak has a declining contract, which is an asset. I don't think he's overpaid by much if at all. I think he could be a good trading chip down the road.

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 10:30 am
by TheGarden
PMS is spreading a ton of bitching because we dont win every game, make every shot and shut out every opponent and we're still not at full strength

Isiah has ruined basketball for you all

Re: Trade Novak.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 11:02 am
by spree2kawhi
Yeah he really needs to be traded.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gB9aQD1a04[/youtube]