yaboynyp wrote:LoyalFan wrote:i like facts and figures. black and white. so lets talk some simple definitive gun facts
there are enough guns currently in circulation in our country that every man woman and child can have at least 1 gun. that means well over 300 million guns. for every gun, semi automatic, they come with 1-3 magazines. that means anywhere from 300-900 million magazines. for every gun owner that buys a gun that uses magazines they always buy extra, from 2-10 extra magazines on top of what comes with the gun when they purchase them. in particular to the ar15 magazine there an online retailer named budsguns who recently sold 3-5 years worth of ar mags in a 72 hour period. this is on top of the easy estimate of 2-3 billion already in circulation. magazines are also not serialized nor are they tracked. also the modern gun magazine holds between 11-19 for a pistol and 30 for a rifle.
so now that we have those numbers out there lets ask some questions. 300(+) million guns in circulation already. easily 2/3rd of them are semi automatic that hold magazines that hold 11 or more rounds. we can make a safe guestimate that there are easily more than 2 billion magazines for various guns, and honestly easily double that number, already in circulation
what type of law do you think can possibly be passed that will have any effect on gun violence given those numbers. this country estimates 11k gun related murders, give or take a few less than drunk driving deaths.
what kind of law do any of you think can honestly be passed. or even better. do you think this is a "law" solution or a moral humanity solution
do you think it is justified to punish the majority for the acts of the few
Some restrictions may help some people, none of the restrictions being proposed are draconian in nature (universal background checks, closing the gun show loophole etc), is gun violence not a problem in the US? Do we not owe it to our society to try?
Just because laws are difficult to enforce doesn’t mean you just throw your hands in the air and say forget about it..
do note that i said only 2 of his options were a problem. the assault weapon band as well as magazine restriction are draconian. draconian and useless.
i did not say the laws were difficult to enforce. i said they were literally impossible. and the majority of the people you would enforce them on, people who dont break laws, is pointless.
drugs are illegal in this country. how effective has that ban been for us. how much has it cost the country to enforce that ban?