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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#621 » by DowNY » Mon Mar 4, 2013 5:53 am

AmazingJason wrote:Amare for Nene/Ariza
sign Billups as FA

Nene
Martin
Melo
JR
Billups


You forgot Mike Woodson for George Karl & a 1st rd pick.
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Post#622 » by seren » Mon Mar 4, 2013 3:37 pm

Gotta go with a tweener at forward spot next season. Don't be surprised if free candy makes a comeback if Orlando waives him.
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Post#623 » by GONYK » Mon Mar 4, 2013 3:38 pm

seren wrote:Gotta go with a tweener at forward spot next season. Don't be surprised if free candy makes a comeback if Orlando waives him.


I'd take him
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Post#624 » by StephNYKurry » Mon Mar 4, 2013 6:19 pm

GONYK wrote:Those assets do not get you anywhere close to those targets


1st Round
Future 1st
Shump
Felton
STAT

Get's you hung up on for EG or John Wall? GM's obviously love being terrible if that's the case.
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Post#625 » by GONYK » Mon Mar 4, 2013 6:20 pm

StephNYKurry wrote:
GONYK wrote:Those assets do not get you anywhere close to those targets


1st Round
Future 1st
Shump
Felton
STAT

Get's you hung up on for EG or John Wall? GM's obviously love being terrible if that's the case.


Nobody is taking STAT
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Post#626 » by StephNYKurry » Mon Mar 4, 2013 6:27 pm

GONYK wrote:
StephNYKurry wrote:
GONYK wrote:Those assets do not get you anywhere close to those targets


1st Round
Future 1st
Shump
Felton
STAT

Get's you hung up on for EG or John Wall? GM's obviously love being terrible if that's the case.


Nobody is taking STAT


Does he have 2 or 3 left?
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Post#627 » by GONYK » Mon Mar 4, 2013 6:29 pm

StephNYKurry wrote:
Does he have 2 or 3 left?


2 more after this season, and they are uninsured
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Post#628 » by StephNYKurry » Mon Mar 4, 2013 6:33 pm

GONYK wrote:
StephNYKurry wrote:
Does he have 2 or 3 left?


2 more after this season, and they are uninsured


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Post#629 » by Vorikan » Mon Mar 4, 2013 6:37 pm

Chandler for Bledsoe and Jordan in the summer ?

Why Knicks:
-They add some youth and athleticism
-Bledsoe is an upgrade over all guards in Knicks uniform,and much better than Felton
-Tyson is getting old,Jordan is only 24

Why Clippers
-Chandler is a great friend with Paul(Paul is FA this summer),and old combination from the Hornets merged again
-He is an upgrade over Jordan,at both ends of the floor
-adds toughness and leadership
-Bledsoe doesn't want to be a backup anymore

Would you do it ?
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Post#630 » by seren » Mon Mar 4, 2013 7:21 pm

LOL at trading away Chandler. If we ever consider trading him, we better get a superstar for him.
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Post#631 » by R-DAWG » Mon Mar 4, 2013 9:32 pm

Vorikan wrote:Chandler for Bledsoe and Jordan in the summer ?

Why Knicks:
-They add some youth and athleticism
-Bledsoe is an upgrade over all guards in Knicks uniform,and much better than Felton
-Tyson is getting old,Jordan is only 24

Why Clippers
-Chandler is a great friend with Paul(Paul is FA this summer),and old combination from the Hornets merged again
-He is an upgrade over Jordan,at both ends of the floor
-adds toughness and leadership
-Bledsoe doesn't want to be a backup anymore

Would you do it ?

I like the idea of selling high on Chandler, especially if we have a disapointing post season performance (anything short of game 6 in the conference finals is disapointing). That being said, need something more from the Clips than that. Jordan's an ok center and Bledsoe is a nice prospect, but does he really have star potential. There will also be a big market for Chandler if we make him available because with 2 years, $28 million left his contract is very affordable for an all-star center who has won defensive player of the year. Team like the Clippers and Spurs would love to have him and sleeper teams like Portland could also get involved. Philadelphia gave up Nikola Vucucic, Moe Harkless, Andre Iguodala and a 1st rd pick for an injured Andrew Bynum. NY shouldn't take less than 2 young players (1st rd picks on rookie deals) and a 1st rd pick for Chandler. And would probally want a decent vet thrown in the deal.

Would Portland give up Wes Matthews, Myers Leonard, another young player and a 1st for Chandler?
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Post#632 » by SuperflyKnick » Tue Mar 5, 2013 5:16 am

Say bye bye to Wallace/Thomas/Copeland/White/Pablo

-Draft best player available and package with Novak for a Hybrid Foward (Wilson CHandler, Luc Richard type)
-Try to Sign Kyle Korver with Mid Level
-Sign productive veterans who will fit around Melo, Amare, Chandler (Elton Brand, Lamar Odom, Telfair type)
-Let Jr Smith go

Chandler, Camby
Amare, Brand/Odom
Melo, Foward ?
Shump, Korver
Felton, Kidd, Telfair
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Post#633 » by GONYK » Tue Mar 5, 2013 5:19 am

SuperflyKnick wrote:Say bye bye to Wallace/Thomas/Copeland/White/Pablo

-Draft best player available and package with Novak for a Hybrid Foward (Wilson CHandler, Luc Richard type)
-Try to Sign Kyle Korver with Mid Level
-Sign productive veterans who will fit around Melo, Amare, Chandler (Elton Brand, Lamar Odom, Telfair type)
-Let Jr Smith go

Chandler, Camby
Amare, Brand/Odom
Melo, Foward ?
Shump, Korver
Felton, Kidd, Telfair


Somebody needs to familiarize themselves with the salary cap
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Post#634 » by StephNYKurry » Tue Mar 5, 2013 5:26 am

After this season...there will be takers for Amar'e
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Post#635 » by Greenie » Tue Mar 5, 2013 12:41 pm

StephNYKurry wrote:After this season...there will be takers for Amar'e

I believe so too. However if STAT, Melo and Tyson show that they can play together I don't think you trade one of the big three (unless you are scared of his knees).

What would make the most sense is to shop Novak, Shumpert, White, and Felton to see if we can upgrade our back court.

This would be an interesting trade scenario.

Charlotte gets:
Iman Shumpert
Steve Novak

Knicks get:
Jeff Taylor
Ramon Sessions
Mike Scott

Atlanta gets:
Trade exception
Cash

Other moves:
I think JR, Martin, Wallace, Thomas, Priggs, and Copeland all walk.

Use our pick on a SG (Goodwin or Crabbe?)
Sign Wayne Ellington
Sign Robert Sacre

Sessions/Felton/Vet Min
Kidd (Woody is our coach)/Draft Pick/Wayne Ellington
Melo/Taylor/vet min
STAT/Scott/Vet Min
Chandler/Camby/Sacre
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Post#636 » by moocow007 » Tue Mar 5, 2013 2:17 pm

StephNYKurry wrote:After this season...there will be takers for Amar'e


Unless the Knicks are planning to rebuild or gut the team (both about as likely as everyone here in this board winning Lotto...at the same time) the only logical thing about trading Stoudemire is if they are going to get someone back that is as productive as he is (and on his current path, that's quite a bit of production).

Unless they make additional moves to shed contracts, the reality is the Knicks will NOT have capspace to sign any name player of any sort even if they manage to find a taker for Stoudemires contract. At which point, given the composition of this team, it would make absolutely no sense to try to move Stoudemire's contract for nothing.

As such...are you thinking that they can actually get someone of some value back in a trade?
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Post#637 » by seren » Tue Mar 5, 2013 3:41 pm

R-DAWG wrote:I like the idea of selling high on Chandler, especially if we have a disapointing post season performance (anything short of game 6 in the conference finals is disapointing). That being said, need something more from the Clips than that. Jordan's an ok center and Bledsoe is a nice prospect, but does he really have star potential. There will also be a big market for Chandler if we make him available because with 2 years, $28 million left his contract is very affordable for an all-star center who has won defensive player of the year. Team like the Clippers and Spurs would love to have him and sleeper teams like Portland could also get involved. Philadelphia gave up Nikola Vucucic, Moe Harkless, Andre Iguodala and a 1st rd pick for an injured Andrew Bynum. NY shouldn't take less than 2 young players (1st rd picks on rookie deals) and a 1st rd pick for Chandler. And would probally want a decent vet thrown in the deal.

Would Portland give up Wes Matthews, Myers Leonard, another young player and a 1st for Chandler?



LOL at selling high on Chandler.

Selling high on Chandler means you are getting back Chris Paul. Not some prospect and an overpaid center. Or bunch of nobodies.
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Post#638 » by SuperflyKnick » Tue Mar 5, 2013 7:33 pm

GONYK wrote:
SuperflyKnick wrote:Say bye bye to Wallace/Thomas/Copeland/White/Pablo

-Draft best player available and package with Novak for a Hybrid Foward (Wilson CHandler, Luc Richard type)
-Try to Sign Kyle Korver with Mid Level
-Sign productive veterans who will fit around Melo, Amare, Chandler (Elton Brand, Lamar Odom, Telfair type)
-Let Jr Smith go

Chandler, Camby
Amare, Brand/Odom
Melo, Foward ?
Shump, Korver
Felton, Kidd, Telfair


Somebody needs to familiarize themselves with the salary cap


Everything i suggested is within the salary cap... I mean its only suggestions but i know WTH im talking about

-Novak makes almost similiar salaries as Wilson, Luc Richard or a Foward who can be had and fits the knicks needs, Since Novak wont be enough value i suggested adding our Draft PK on draft day = Salary cap check

-Trying to sign Kyle Korver with mini mid level which we will have, though i think he might want more but a chance to play with a good team might entice him , you have to try he fits perfectly with this team = Salary cap check

- Sign veterans with Vet exception like Brand or Telfair , i mean doesnt everyone have Vet exceptions and these players might be lured to coming back to NY where they started = Salary Cap check

- Letting JR go = I guess you know

Now ill say something to you (Somebody needs to familiarize themselves with the salary cap)
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Post#639 » by seren » Tue Mar 5, 2013 8:30 pm

You ain't getting Chandler or Mbah for a miserable pick and Novak's horrible contract. That is not reasonable at all. Now if you are throwing in Camby's expiring and Shump, maybe you might have a shot.

Korver will almost surely going to cost you more than mini-MLE after the season he's had. Heck even before a season like that he was worth the full MLE.

You are not getting Brand nor Odom for minimum either. You might have a shot at one of them with mini-MLE though.

So if you do those trade and let JR go, it will look like this:

Felton/?
Kidd/?
Chandler (or Mbah)/Novak
Melo/Amare
Chandler/Brand
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Post#640 » by j4remi » Tue Mar 5, 2013 8:35 pm

seren wrote:You ain't getting Chandler or Mbah for a miserable pick and Novak's horrible contract. That is not reasonable at all. Now if you are throwing in Camby's expiring and Shump, maybe you might have a shot.

Korver will almost surely going to cost you more than mini-MLE after the season he's had. Heck even before a season like that he was worth the full MLE.

You are not getting Brand nor Odom for minimum either. You might have a shot at one of them with mini-MLE though.

So if you do those trade and let JR go, it will look like this:

Felton/?
Kidd/?
Chandler (or Mbah)/Novak
Melo/Amare
Chandler/Brand


Not really a fan of that. Maybe if we somehow kept Shump and dealt our late 1st rounder I'd warm up to it.
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