Carmelo Anthony named all-star starter. KG over Tyson.

Post #31 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:04 am

JustCame wrote:
KGs defense >>> Tysons defense

how so?

besides a few games this year where he didn't show up tyson is still the reining defensive player of the year and does much more

who blocks more shots - tyson
who gets more rebounds - tyson
who is he better post defender - tyson

garnett is probably the better help defender but that about it.

blue and orange · Post #32 » by **blue and orange** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:04 am

KG is the better player then Tyson but Tyson has played better then KG this year.

blumatic · Post #33 » by **blumatic** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:07 am

blue and orange wrote:KG is the better player then Tyson but Tyson has played better then KG this year.

Thats all that matters.

Post #34 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:08 am

blue and orange wrote:KG is the better player then Tyson but Tyson has played better then KG this year.

i disagree with the first part, agree with the 2nd...KG is the much better player over his career. But at this point in there careers the only thing KG does better is shoot the basketball. Tyson is better at just about everything else

Post #35 » by **NoLayupRule** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:21 am

gross that under .500 teams will have multiple starters and teams like NY, SAS and mem have 0,or 1 in our case

TheToothFairy · Post #36 » by **TheToothFairy** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:55 am

Wow, well we are NYC and we only have ourselves to blame for KG getting voted in over Chandler

JoseChinga · Post #37 » by **JoseChinga** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:43 am

How is Garnett better than Noah, Lopez or Chandler?

Any Knick fan who thinks Garnett is better than those aren't a Knick fan anymore.

Fat Kat · Post #38 » by **Fat Kat** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:52 am

TheToothFairy wrote:Wow, well we are NYC and we only have ourselves to blame for KG getting voted in over Chandler

As we see, some Knick fans can't stop themselves from fellating KG despite the Celtics unimpressive record. They're getting what they want.

Dr. Detfink · Post #39 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:23 am

Who cares. I want EVERY Knick to miss this FARCE called an All-Star game. A rodeo clown competition is more fierce.

Let's rest up and be ready for the second half.

Leaguepass · Post #40 » by **Leaguepass** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:59 pm

KG>>Tyson...and I love Tyson.

Not by a whole lot but KG gives you a lot of possibilities on offense that Tyson simply doesn't. Rebounding is the only area where Tyson clearly beats KG...other than that KG is really better at every aspect of the game.

Tron Carter · Post #41 » by **Tron Carter** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:08 pm

Leaguepass wrote:KG>>Tyson...and I love Tyson.

Not by a whole lot but KG gives you a lot of possibilities on offense that Tyson simply doesn't. Rebounding is the only area where Tyson clearly beats KG...other than that KG is really better at every aspect of the game.

KG is averaging a whopping 2 points higher while Tyson is averaging 4.5 offensive rebounds a game.

Chandler's offensive impact > Garnett's

People will always underrate Chandler's game on the offensive end but he's arguably the best rolling big in the league and gives us crucial extra possessions. His tap outs have literally lead to game winning shots!

Falstaffxx · Post #42 » by **Falstaffxx** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:29 pm

blumatic wrote:Rondo, Wade, Melo, Lebron, KG.

The elimination of the center position hurt Tyson. KG is still the better player.

West has Paul, Kobe, Durant, Dwight, Blake.

I don't usually do that "fixed" bs, but...fixed.

Falstaffxx · Post #43 » by **Falstaffxx** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:30 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:gross that under .500 teams will have multiple starters and teams like NY, SAS and mem have 0,or 1 in our case

No one but Anthony deserves it on the Knicks.

Leaguepass · Post #44 » by **Leaguepass** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:30 pm

HakeemKnicks wrote:
Leaguepass wrote:KG>>Tyson...and I love Tyson.

Not by a whole lot but KG gives you a lot of possibilities on offense that Tyson simply doesn't. Rebounding is the only area where Tyson clearly beats KG...other than that KG is really better at every aspect of the game.

KG is averaging a whopping 2 points higher while Tyson is averaging 4.5 offensive rebounds a game.

Chandler's offensive impact > Garnett's

People will always underrate Chandler's game on the offensive end but he's arguably the best rolling big in the league and gives us crucial extra possessions. His tap outs have literally lead to game winning shots!

Garnett gives you very similar defense/help defense/shotblocking+ he can stretch out the defense, opening up the floor for others. He can also post up and command double teams....Tyson might be better at finishing around the rim now but Kg's positives outweigh Tyson's overall. Like I said, the gap isn't huge by any means but I believe Garnett is still ahead of Tyson, which isn't bad since both players are huge for their teams.

Falstaffxx · Post #45 » by **Falstaffxx** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:32 pm

blumatic wrote:
blue and orange wrote:KG is the better player then Tyson but Tyson has played better then KG this year.

Thats all that matters.

It's not true.

Post #46 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:51 pm

Falstaffxx wrote:
blumatic wrote:
blue and orange wrote:KG is the better player then Tyson but Tyson has played better then KG this year.

Thats all that matters.

It's not true.

before I begin to criticize this statement would you care to back up that ridiculous statement with some facts? or statistics? instead of making a subjective comment like that

Record - Knicks much better than the celtics (edge tyson)
Scoring - KG is averaging 2 pts more than tyson while taking 5 more shots a game (tyson is shooting 67% while KG is shooting 51%)
Rebounding - Tyson killing KG (11 rebounds a game to 7 rebounds per game)
Defense - Tyson averging more blocks per game

Point out one area which KG is outplaying Tyson this year?

I don't mind a debate about a knicks player not being worthy of something but please have some relavent stats to back up your claim.

Tyson has had his clunkers this year but he is still the best center in the east. KG has had many more clunkers than TC this year.

MaseInYourFace · Post #47 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:54 pm

Its a fan vote. It is what it is. Our fans need to come out a bit harder next time...

Post #48 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:56 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:Its a fan vote. It is what it is. Our fans need to come out a bit harder next time...

fair pont, im not arguing whether or not Chandler deserved it over KG...it is a fan vote after all.

I'm arguing the ridiculous claim that KG is a better player than Tyson at this point in there careers.

blumatic · Post #49 » by **blumatic** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:03 pm

I misspoke. KG is the better player for his career. And his offensive skill set is better than Tyson. But Tyson has outplayed KG by far this year. And the Knicks are winning.

If the coaches voted KG wouldnt start. Im arguing for Tyson. Its s crime he is not starting.

KnicksManiac · Post #50 » by **KnicksManiac** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:10 pm

Starting lineup of Heat/Celtics/Knick. This should be interesting.