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Re: Chicago and Indiana are better 

Post#211 » by PicheDreams » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:04 am

Boozer Nate robinson and Richard Hamilton are better?..

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Re: Chicago and Indiana are better 

Post#212 » by 23-7 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:06 am

Huh?
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Re: Chicago and Indiana are better 

Post#213 » by Nuntius » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:57 am

Thugger HBC wrote:If those teams were better, they'd have the better record.

You are what your record says you are.

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Re: Chicago and Indiana are better 

Post#214 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:01 am

Nuntius wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:If those teams were better, they'd have the better record.

You are what your record says you are.

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Do you still hold that point of view?

why wouldn't I? do they both have a better record?
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Re: Chicago and Indiana are better 

Post#215 » by Nuntius » Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:17 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
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Thugger HBC wrote:If those teams were better, they'd have the better record.

You are what your record says you are.

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Do you still hold that point of view?

why wouldn't I? do they both have a better record?


The Pacers do.
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Re: Chicago and Indiana are better 

Post#216 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:18 am

Played more games too, that's why they have more losses.
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Post#217 » by Nuntius » Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:22 am

Thugger HBC wrote:Played more games too, that's why they have more losses.


So, that means that they will have more rest towards the end of the season :wink:

It doesn't change the fact that the Pacers are 13 games over .500 while the Knicks are 12 games over .500
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Re: Chicago and Indiana are better 

Post#218 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:25 am

Fair point, i expect this to contnue all year.
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Post#219 » by daschysta » Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:28 am

Records tend to fluctuate. However trends can be telling, Indy started rough, largely because they didn't expect Granger to be out at all, let alone for more than half the season and it took time to adjust, after their 4-7 start they've been elite though. Over the last 44:

SAS 34-10
OKC 32-12
Miami 32-12
LAC 31-13
Indiana 30-14
DEN 29-15
MEM 27-17


NYK- 23-21

Curiously Indy has the 5th best record in the NBA over this period, consistent with their 5th best finish last season. Granger is the X-Factor though, as they had him last year and he hasn't played yet this year.
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Post#220 » by Leaguepass » Sun Jun 2, 2013 12:28 pm

Bump.....just to remind some guys....this "playoff run" and it's ending vs. Indy was very easy to predict if you aren't still brainwashed by that small ball bull.
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Post#221 » by kNicksGmen » Sun Jun 2, 2013 2:34 pm

pacers are better without granger. he's an addition by subtraction type player.
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Re: Chicago and Indiana are better 

Post#222 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jun 2, 2013 2:40 pm

Nuntius wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Played more games too, that's why they have more losses.


So, that means that they will have more rest towards the end of the season :wink:

It doesn't change the fact that the Pacers are 13 games over .500 while the Knicks are 12 games over .500



Please stop twisting yourself into a pretzel to rationalize in your own mind that the Knicks are better - or just as good as Indiana. We are not.
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Re: Chicago and Indiana are better 

Post#223 » by Dr. Detfink » Sun Jun 2, 2013 4:02 pm

Benedict Cumberbatch (Star Trek) to play both Chicago and Indiana quoting, "I am better...at every thing." :lol:
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Re: Chicago and Indiana are better 

Post#224 » by Nuntius » Sun Jun 2, 2013 4:06 pm

HawthorneWingo wrote:Please stop twisting yourself into a pretzel to rationalize in your own mind that the Knicks are better - or just as good as Indiana. We are not.


Woot?

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Post#225 » by StephNYKurry » Sun Jun 2, 2013 4:17 pm

Leaguepass wrote:Bump.....just to remind some guys....this "playoff run" and it's ending vs. Indy was very easy to predict if you aren't still brainwashed by that small ball bull.


Kenny Smith said it last night.

The playoffs, often times, is not about who's "better". It's about matchups and who plays the best in the 7 game series.

It's not entirely about being "better".

Fact of the matter is that the Heat smash EVERYONE with a healthy Wade and the Knicks are still the 2nd best team in the East they play to their potential, but that's a sketchy proposition when one of your primary weapons is a hot/cold guy.
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Post#226 » by Leaguepass » Sun Jun 2, 2013 4:25 pm

StephNYKurry wrote:
Leaguepass wrote:Bump.....just to remind some guys....this "playoff run" and it's ending vs. Indy was very easy to predict if you aren't still brainwashed by that small ball bull.


Kenny Smith said it last night.

The playoffs, often times, is not about who's "better". It's about matchups and who plays the best in the 7 game series.

It's not entirely about being "better".

Fact of the matter is that the Heat smash EVERYONE with a healthy Wade and the Knicks are still the 2nd best team in the East they play to their potential, but that's a sketchy proposition when one of your primary weapons is a hot/cold guy.


95% of the time playing defense,controlling the boards,scoring in the paint,not settling for jumpers,getting to the FT line is gonna win the playoffs. Woodson tried to disprove that through his small ball bull philosophy and got completely destroyed by Vogel and his right approach. If anyone thinks this is just some sort of weird coincidence he needs his head checked because playing iso 90% of the time, while giving up a double digit margin on the boards and shooting half the FTs that your opposition shoots is gonna make you lose a series. If the Knicks' coaches and FO truly think the same way some fans think then we're gonna be in for another dissapointing playoffs next season.

If our current Knick team plays 10 playoff series vs. the current Pacers (meaning we play our small ball crap)---the Pacers will remain victorious 9 out of 10 times.
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Re: Chicago and Indiana are better 

Post#227 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Jun 2, 2013 4:28 pm

The scary part about the Pacers is they really dont have a bench.

They could roll Granger out as a sixth man or trade his expirer for depth.

That's pretty scary, not even to mention how young they are.
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Post#228 » by Pharmcat » Sun Jun 2, 2013 4:31 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:The scary part about the Pacers is they really dont have a bench.

They could roll Granger out as a sixth man or trade his expirer for depth.

That's pretty scary, not even to mention how young they are.



a lot of things can happen over the course of a summer and the season

NY just needs to focus on themselves and not worry about other teams, we know the east will be good next year
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Re: Chicago and Indiana are better 

Post#229 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Jun 2, 2013 4:36 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:The scary part about the Pacers is they really dont have a bench.

They could roll Granger out as a sixth man or trade his expirer for depth.

That's pretty scary, not even to mention how young they are.



a lot of things can happen over the course of a summer and the season

NY just needs to focus on themselves and not worry about other teams, we know the east will be good next year

Makes sense, but not realistic....teams base their rosters according to the landscape.

Knicks were built for one team, but were vulnerable to one in the path.
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Post#230 » by Pharmcat » Sun Jun 2, 2013 4:38 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:The scary part about the Pacers is they really dont have a bench.

They could roll Granger out as a sixth man or trade his expirer for depth.

That's pretty scary, not even to mention how young they are.



a lot of things can happen over the course of a summer and the season

NY just needs to focus on themselves and not worry about other teams, we know the east will be good next year

Makes sense, but not realistic....teams base their rosters according to the landscape.

Knicks were built for one team, but were vulnerable to one in the path.



what if West leaves IND?

I just dont see how a team can plan for all of the east PO teams
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