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Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:22 pm
by BasicBall
Delonte and JR on the same team? Oh hell nah!
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:25 pm
by Huey Freeman
Does Delonte even want to play again after the fiasco in Dallas? Has he spoken about a return lately? If he takes his meds then....F*** it, put me on the "Get Crazy-@ss Delonte West On This Team ASAP" bandwagon. Take that risk. I know he's a nutcase but who else out there can help us more at the guard position - on both sides of the ball? No one from the D-League.
Most of basketball is mental, and having West and K-Mart presence on the floor helps the team get tough. It also allows Jason Kidd to rest because I suspect he's not 100% in some regard but is playing anyway. And Delonte West is a better decision-maker than Shump & JR Smith. And like others have said earlier, West can play both guard positions for spot minutes. But, I wouldn't cut James White before cutting Kurt Thomas. We have Kenyon Martin now, KT is more expendable.
Hey, since we are collecting old vets, I would explore what kind of shape Mo Evans is in and dust him off to see if he's still better than James White.
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:41 pm
by Pharmcat
another guy Id throw out there is Mo evans
is this guy available?
he meets all the criteria: SG, old, vet, experience with playing under woodson
Id start him at sg, ease the pressure of SHump and let him come of the bench
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:47 pm
by kane
Oh F it lets just sign gilbert arenas too while were at it and we can all eat vaseline together
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:10 pm
by HarthorneWingo
moocow007 wrote:Absolutely...I've been bitching like a little girl for Andersen, Martin and West for quite some time now. Andersen went to Miami and has basically played a huge role in re-igniting that team. We got Martin (hopefully to do something of the same in NY). West is the last one. Go get him. Crazy is the last thing the Knicks need to worry about. Right now they need someone with balls of steel and that's West. They need a fighter and that's West. And West does EVERYTHING that the Knicks are needing right now of their perimeter players (ball handling, shooting, defense, toughness, passing) that they are rarely getting.
This is all Dolan who wants good "quality" people on his team. It's only out of desperation, IMO, that he buckled and signed Fugazy.
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:15 pm
by Falstaffxx
HawthorneWingo wrote:moocow007 wrote:Absolutely...I've been bitching like a little girl for Andersen, Martin and West for quite some time now. Andersen went to Miami and has basically played a huge role in re-igniting that team. We got Martin (hopefully to do something of the same in NY). West is the last one. Go get him. Crazy is the last thing the Knicks need to worry about. Right now they need someone with balls of steel and that's West. They need a fighter and that's West. And West does EVERYTHING that the Knicks are needing right now of their perimeter players (ball handling, shooting, defense, toughness, passing) that they are rarely getting.
This is all Dolan who wants good "quality" people on his team. It's only out of desperation, IMO, that he buckled and signed Fugazy.
If Dolan took the quality of the person into account, our roster would be very different. I've seen no evidence of that, unfortunately.
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:18 pm
by GONYK
Falstaffxx wrote:HawthorneWingo wrote:moocow007 wrote:Absolutely...I've been bitching like a little girl for Andersen, Martin and West for quite some time now. Andersen went to Miami and has basically played a huge role in re-igniting that team. We got Martin (hopefully to do something of the same in NY). West is the last one. Go get him. Crazy is the last thing the Knicks need to worry about. Right now they need someone with balls of steel and that's West. They need a fighter and that's West. And West does EVERYTHING that the Knicks are needing right now of their perimeter players (ball handling, shooting, defense, toughness, passing) that they are rarely getting.
This is all Dolan who wants good "quality" people on his team. It's only out of desperation, IMO, that he buckled and signed Fugazy.
If Dolan took the quality of the person into account, our roster would be very different. I've seen no evidence of that, unfortunately.
It would be Layden's Knicks if character was the main criteria
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:20 pm
by Falstaffxx
GONYK wrote:Falstaffxx wrote:HawthorneWingo wrote:
This is all Dolan who wants good "quality" people on his team. It's only out of desperation, IMO, that he buckled and signed Fugazy.
If Dolan took the quality of the person into account, our roster would be very different. I've seen no evidence of that, unfortunately.
It would be Layden's Knicks if character was the main criteria
Maybe there's a middle ground where players who are simultaneously marginal AND douchey can be avoided, so that the douche quotient isn't higher than it has to be.
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:50 pm
by moocow007
HawthorneWingo wrote:moocow007 wrote:Absolutely...I've been bitching like a little girl for Andersen, Martin and West for quite some time now. Andersen went to Miami and has basically played a huge role in re-igniting that team. We got Martin (hopefully to do something of the same in NY). West is the last one. Go get him. Crazy is the last thing the Knicks need to worry about. Right now they need someone with balls of steel and that's West. They need a fighter and that's West. And West does EVERYTHING that the Knicks are needing right now of their perimeter players (ball handling, shooting, defense, toughness, passing) that they are rarely getting.
This is all Dolan who wants good "quality" people on his team. It's only out of desperation, IMO, that he buckled and signed Fugazy.
The Knicks basically got smacked in the face by the Pacers right off the back the other game. Instead of fighting back they basically curled up in a fetal position and cried themselves to a loss. The time for being prissy about character is long past. For those that say "must be a reason why no one wants him so I dont want him either". Same could have been said about Chris Andersen and hes turned out to be the match that has helped reignite the Heat after they spent about a month yhemselves playing like ass. So shouldthe Heat not have signed him cause he had character problems andno one signed him up until then? If a 10 day contract for West to see what he can do can destroy this team then this team definitely has more problems than West can help with. Dallas was at a different point than the Knicks are now when they cut him. No West isnt going to single handedly do anything but tgats not the purpose to add him...never was. Anyone thinking along that rationale is just blurry minded.
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:54 pm
by KingzAndQueenz
Na, lets hang on to the dunk contest failure instead.
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:57 pm
by Falstaffxx
moocow007 wrote:
The Knicks basically got smacked in the face by the Pacers right off the back the other game. Instead of fighting back they basically curled up in a fetal position and cried themselves to a loss. The time for being prissy about character is long past. For those that say "must be a reason why no one wants him so I dont want him either". Same could have been said about Chris Andersen and hes turned out to be the match that has helped reignite the Heat after they spent about a month yhemselves playing like ass. So shouldthe Heat not have signed him cause he had character problems andno one signed him up until then? If a 10 day contract for West to see what he can do can destroy this team then this team definitely has more problems than West can help with. Dallas was at a different point than the Knicks are now when they cut him. No West isnt going to single handedly do anything but tgats not the purpose to add him...never was. Anyone thinking along that rationale is just blurry minded.
If this team was "prissy about character" (not sure why caring about character is "prissy," but whatever) it wouldn't have Jason Kidd, J.R. Smith, and Kenyon Martin.
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:59 pm
by GONYK
I'd sign Pistorious if he could defend the perimeter
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:31 pm
by NyKniCKs2010
Actually alan hahn said on his twitter that warrick was released. Cut thomas and sign him!
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:13 pm
by iHeartKNicks
NyKniCKs2010 wrote:Actually alan hahn said on his twitter that warrick was released. Cut thomas and sign him!
We dont need another big man, we need a wing player that is capable of at least giving effort on defense, can handle the ball and can knock down an open shot.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFABQ3s5_lA[/youtube]
while I take this mix with a grain of salt, one thing you'll notice is that he's very aggressive defending the P&R which would be valuable to us.
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:31 pm
by GONYK
NyKniCKs2010 wrote:Actually alan hahn said on his twitter that warrick was released. Cut thomas and sign him!
Warrick is ass
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:58 pm
by RHODEY
iHeartKNicks wrote:NyKniCKs2010 wrote:Actually alan hahn said on his twitter that warrick was released. Cut thomas and sign him!
We dont need another big man, we need a wing player that is capable of at least giving effort on defense, can handle the ball and can knock down an open shot.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFABQ3s5_lA[/youtube]
while I take this mix with a grain of salt, one thing you'll notice is that he's very aggressive defending the P&R which would be valuable to us.
Hmm...think I'm on board. Still doesn't change the fact that we don't know how far off mentally Delonte is. But from a basketball standpoint he probably could help immensely.
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:12 pm
by Tron Carter
Jared Zwerling @JaredZwerling
Woody plans to meet w/ Grunwald soon to discuss roster. Sims will likely not get called up. Focus more on backcourt. West, Gaines or Pargo?
pargo signed with the lolcats. west might be on the radar.
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:14 pm
by god shammgod
HakeemKnicks wrote:Jared Zwerling @JaredZwerling
Woody plans to meet w/ Grunwald soon to discuss roster. Sims will likely not get called up. Focus more on backcourt. West, Gaines or Pargo?
pargo signed with the lolcats. west might be on the radar.
didn't expect this.
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:16 pm
by moocow007
HakeemKnicks wrote:Jared Zwerling @JaredZwerling
Woody plans to meet w/ Grunwald soon to discuss roster. Sims will likely not get called up. Focus more on backcourt. West, Gaines or Pargo?
pargo signed with the lolcats. west might be on the radar.
Re: Cut Some1, Sign DELONTE, Sooner Rather Than Later Please
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:18 pm
by Tron Carter
god shammgod wrote:HakeemKnicks wrote:Jared Zwerling @JaredZwerling
Woody plans to meet w/ Grunwald soon to discuss roster. Sims will likely not get called up. Focus more on backcourt. West, Gaines or Pargo?
pargo signed with the lolcats. west might be on the radar.
didn't expect this.
neither did i, pleasantly surprised. just hope zwerling isn't throwing **** up against the wall hoping it sticks like that kennedy kid.