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Re: 2015 Scenarios (what the hell, it's July?) 

Post#1441 » by ORANGEandBLUE » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:46 am

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thats not true.. no one is looking at this team with carmelo and saying.. I have to come to NY... that is not true..... Even in the past, when the knicks had cap space, and money, they could get Free agents... Allen Houston and chris childs both were pretty hot free agents who we were able to get.. because, we had the money to lure them from NJ and Detroit... Amare came as a Free agent.... when we had the money, we were able to get free agents....

who are we drawing now? Kidd? he came for the 3 years deal at 40 years of age.. MWP? are you kidding me, he was amnestied... where are all of these players who want to come here to play with carmelo? any of these guys would have come here carmelo or not if we offered them the money we did.. don't fool yourself.... Guys like MWP are here because they are at the end of their career and we come calling with our wallets.... people know we love to pay... and overpay...

How about Felton and JR?

And total BS about Tyson only wanting to play with Amare:

""It just really happened over the last, like, 48 hours," Chandler said on ESPN 103.3's "Ben and Skin Show" on Friday. "I just think the future of the team, being able to play alongside Amare Stoudemire, Carmelo Anthony and the young talent that we have, I feel like puts us in contention over the next four or five years."

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/i ... ork-knicks
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Re: 2015 Scenarios (what the hell, it's July?) 

Post#1442 » by GONYK » Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:16 am

TKF wrote:
thats not true.. no one is looking at this team with carmelo and saying.. I have to come to NY... that is not true..... Even in the past, when the knicks had cap space, and money, they could get Free agents... Allen Houston and chris childs both were pretty hot free agents who we were able to get.. because, we had the money to lure them from NJ and Detroit... Amare came as a Free agent.... when we had the money, we were able to get free agents....

who are we drawing now? Kidd? he came for the 3 years deal at 40 years of age.. MWP? are you kidding me, he was amnestied... where are all of these players who want to come here to play with carmelo? any of these guys would have come here carmelo or not if we offered them the money we did.. don't fool yourself.... Guys like MWP are here because they are at the end of their career and we come calling with our wallets.... people know we love to pay... and overpay...


Stars attract players. There is no getting around this.

Amare attracted Melo and the two of them attracted Tyson. The three of them attracted all types of players.

That is the way it works.
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Re: 2015 Scenarios (what the hell, it's July?) 

Post#1443 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:37 am

TKF, it is crazy the lengths you will go to discredit Carmelo. idk if it's healthy.
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Re: 2015 Scenarios (what the hell, it's July?) 

Post#1444 » by TKF » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:13 am

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TKF wrote:
thats not true.. no one is looking at this team with carmelo and saying.. I have to come to NY... that is not true..... Even in the past, when the knicks had cap space, and money, they could get Free agents... Allen Houston and chris childs both were pretty hot free agents who we were able to get.. because, we had the money to lure them from NJ and Detroit... Amare came as a Free agent.... when we had the money, we were able to get free agents....

who are we drawing now? Kidd? he came for the 3 years deal at 40 years of age.. MWP? are you kidding me, he was amnestied... where are all of these players who want to come here to play with carmelo? any of these guys would have come here carmelo or not if we offered them the money we did.. don't fool yourself.... Guys like MWP are here because they are at the end of their career and we come calling with our wallets.... people know we love to pay... and overpay...


Stars attract players. There is no getting around this.

Amare attracted Melo and the two of them attracted Tyson. The three of them attracted all types of players.

That is the way it works.

YEA, JR smith, kenyon martin and a retired jason kid.... how is that a benefit? I say no thanks...
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Re: 2015 Scenarios (what the hell, it's July?) 

Post#1445 » by suicidedeuce » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:42 am

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:TKF, it is crazy the lengths you will go to discredit Carmelo.


Called trolling.
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Re: 2015 Scenarios (what the hell, it's July?) 

Post#1446 » by TKF » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:45 am

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Knicks_Fan2 wrote:TKF, it is crazy the lengths you will go to discredit Carmelo.


Called trolling.


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Re: 2015 Scenarios (what the hell, it's July?) 

Post#1447 » by TKF » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:46 am

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:TKF, it is crazy the lengths you will go to discredit Carmelo. idk if it's healthy.


its funny because I notice the crazy lengths many of you will go to give him credit.... go figure.... :roll:
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Re: 2015 Scenarios (what the hell, it's July?) 

Post#1448 » by GONYK » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:49 am

TKF wrote:
GONYK wrote:
TKF wrote:
thats not true.. no one is looking at this team with carmelo and saying.. I have to come to NY... that is not true..... Even in the past, when the knicks had cap space, and money, they could get Free agents... Allen Houston and chris childs both were pretty hot free agents who we were able to get.. because, we had the money to lure them from NJ and Detroit... Amare came as a Free agent.... when we had the money, we were able to get free agents....

who are we drawing now? Kidd? he came for the 3 years deal at 40 years of age.. MWP? are you kidding me, he was amnestied... where are all of these players who want to come here to play with carmelo? any of these guys would have come here carmelo or not if we offered them the money we did.. don't fool yourself.... Guys like MWP are here because they are at the end of their career and we come calling with our wallets.... people know we love to pay... and overpay...


Stars attract players. There is no getting around this.

Amare attracted Melo and the two of them attracted Tyson. The three of them attracted all types of players.

That is the way it works.

YEA, JR smith, kenyon martin and a retired jason kid.... how is that a benefit? I say no thanks...


Yes, like the 6MOY, and 2 respected vets who contributed to a division title and our best season in almost 15 years

What, you want 5 MAX players all playing for $3M to justify Melo being here?
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Re: 2015 Scenarios (what the hell, it's July?) 

Post#1449 » by NYKat » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:33 pm

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:
TKF wrote:
thats not true.. no one is looking at this team with carmelo and saying.. I have to come to NY... that is not true..... Even in the past, when the knicks had cap space, and money, they could get Free agents... Allen Houston and chris childs both were pretty hot free agents who we were able to get.. because, we had the money to lure them from NJ and Detroit... Amare came as a Free agent.... when we had the money, we were able to get free agents....

who are we drawing now? Kidd? he came for the 3 years deal at 40 years of age.. MWP? are you kidding me, he was amnestied... where are all of these players who want to come here to play with carmelo? any of these guys would have come here carmelo or not if we offered them the money we did.. don't fool yourself.... Guys like MWP are here because they are at the end of their career and we come calling with our wallets.... people know we love to pay... and overpay...

How about Felton and JR?

And total BS about Tyson only wanting to play with Amare:

""It just really happened over the last, like, 48 hours," Chandler said on ESPN 103.3's "Ben and Skin Show" on Friday. "I just think the future of the team, being able to play alongside Amare Stoudemire, Carmelo Anthony and the young talent that we have, I feel like puts us in contention over the next four or five years."

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/i ... ork-knicks


Dude, this quote has been brought up like 5 times in this thread, he just ignores it and keeps repeating the same thing...
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Re: 2015 Scenarios (what the hell, it's July?) 

Post#1450 » by Tron Carter » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:37 pm

GONYK wrote:
TKF wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Stars attract players. There is no getting around this.

Amare attracted Melo and the two of them attracted Tyson. The three of them attracted all types of players.

That is the way it works.

YEA, JR smith, kenyon martin and a retired jason kid.... how is that a benefit? I say no thanks...


Yes, like the 6MOY, and 2 respected vets who contributed to a division title and our best season in almost 15 years

What, you want 5 MAX players all playing for $3M to justify Melo being here?

stars attract players regardless of salary cap rules. when cp3 didn't come for the mmle i pretty much came to the realization nobody wants to play with this chucker.
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Re: 2015 Scenarios (what the hell, it's July?) 

Post#1451 » by Phish Tank » Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:08 pm

TKF wrote:
thats not true.. no one is looking at this team with carmelo and saying.. I have to come to NY... that is not true..... Even in the past, when the knicks had cap space, and money, they could get Free agents... Allen Houston and chris childs both were pretty hot free agents who we were able to get.. because, we had the money to lure them from NJ and Detroit... Amare came as a Free agent.... when we had the money, we were able to get free agents....

who are we drawing now? Kidd? he came for the 3 years deal at 40 years of age.. MWP? are you kidding me, he was amnestied... where are all of these players who want to come here to play with carmelo? any of these guys would have come here carmelo or not if we offered them the money we did.. don't fool yourself.... Guys like MWP are here because they are at the end of their career and we come calling with our wallets.... people know we love to pay... and overpay...


Well unless you're getting old and nearing retirement, no one, regardless of age, will ever be like, "I have to come to such and such city" to play with any player. No one. Not for Jordan, Carmelo, LeBron, Durant, CP3, Kobe... no one.

In the end, as the good old people on Shark Tank say, it's all about $$$


$$$

$$$

$$$

No big time player will come to play in NY now because there's no $$$ for them.

The Miami Big 3 are getting paid $20M this year... so much for their supposed "paycuts." JR Smith didn't take a paycut to come here.... all of the teams offered the same amount of $.

In the end, it's about $$$ first and then it's about who to play for.

I'm sure Dwight's main reason to play in Houston wasn't because he would love to play with Jeremy or James.

I'm sure everyone would love to play with the Gallo in Denver, but there's no more $$$ there.

In the end, $$$ talks, just like Fabolous said recently
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Re: 2015 Scenarios (what the hell, it's July?) 

Post#1452 » by TKF » Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:31 pm

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TKF wrote:
thats not true.. no one is looking at this team with carmelo and saying.. I have to come to NY... that is not true..... Even in the past, when the knicks had cap space, and money, they could get Free agents... Allen Houston and chris childs both were pretty hot free agents who we were able to get.. because, we had the money to lure them from NJ and Detroit... Amare came as a Free agent.... when we had the money, we were able to get free agents....

who are we drawing now? Kidd? he came for the 3 years deal at 40 years of age.. MWP? are you kidding me, he was amnestied... where are all of these players who want to come here to play with carmelo? any of these guys would have come here carmelo or not if we offered them the money we did.. don't fool yourself.... Guys like MWP are here because they are at the end of their career and we come calling with our wallets.... people know we love to pay... and overpay...


Well unless you're getting old and nearing retirement, no one, regardless of age, will ever be like, "I have to come to such and such city" to play with any player. No one. Not for Jordan, Carmelo, LeBron, Durant, CP3, Kobe... no one.

In the end, as the good old people on Shark Tank say, it's all about $$$


$$$

$$$

$$$

No big time player will come to play in NY now because there's no $$$ for them.

The Miami Big 3 are getting paid $20M this year... so much for their supposed "paycuts." JR Smith didn't take a paycut to come here.... all of the teams offered the same amount of $.

In the end, it's about $$$ first and then it's about who to play for.

I'm sure Dwight's main reason to play in Houston wasn't because he would love to play with Jeremy or James.

I'm sure everyone would to play with the Gallo in Denver, but there's no more $$$ there.

In the end, $$$ talks, just like Fabolous said recently



pretty much on point... It is all about the money...
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Re: 2015 Scenarios (what the hell, it's July?) 

Post#1453 » by seren » Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:35 pm

HakeemKnicks wrote:stars attract players regardless of salary cap rules. when cp3 didn't come for the mmle i pretty much came to the realization nobody wants to play with this chucker.


:lol:

you should put it in green font. people might misunderstand the post.

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