Sprewell4Three wrote:suicidedeuce wrote:What does "overrated" mean?
Sounds like it means lots of people liked it but I didn't therefore they're all wrong and I'm right.
Not liking the Avengers is a perfectly valid personal opinion, as is liking it.
We know for a fact it was one of the top 30 or so most popular movies of all time, if critical/audience reception is any indication.
Why can't people leave it as "I didn't happen to like what a lot of other people did". Again, perfectly legit.
There's something so self-possessed about the term "overrated", as if someone your opinion is the correct ones and everyone else's opinions needs to be adjusted to yours.
I agree. People that usually hate the avengers are Chris Nolan / batman fans. If a comic book movie is not gritty and or have a deep meaning they suck in front of their eyes.
Seriously these batman trolls really only have the dark knight as the really only good batman flick. The first one was good but not breath taking and the 3rd one was a huge disappointment.
Long time Lurker, new poster....stfu and gtfo
I am one of those that hold all comicbook movies to a higher standard because of the Dark Knight and even though Batman begins was really good and Rises was decent, Nolans trilogy is regarded as the benchmark for comicbook movies because he didn't treat them like comics. It wasn't simply because they were dark and gritty, it's because he approached the Batman films
as films not simply genre fare, which lead to a higher class of comicbook movie that has never been seen until then or duplicated (pacing, tone, acting, musical score, dialogue, visuals, etc - also Winter Soldier attempted this).
That doesn't mean there is no room for fun, non serious comicbook movies, but at the same time it shouldn't feel like the studios and directors aren't striving for more than generic popcorn fare 80%-90% of the time. A lot of the comicbook movies coming out seem to be standard and by the numbers while taking no risk or creating memorable storylines/characters/worlds.
Blade started the new comicbook craze about 15 years ago and I think a lot of people have gotten past the point of being excited just because:
"Hey look at your favorite hero on the big screen...now look at him/her interact or crack jokes with another hero...and watch as they name drop another soon to come superhero...don't forget that little easter egg we left for the real fans."
I thought Avengers was simply ok, not bad by any stretch but not amazing either and that's just my opinion. To me it was not a strong overall film but rather waiting for the next "big interaction" or "moment" between characters. I think the overrated tag comes into play because some feel as though others hype the movie as the greatest the comicbook movie world has to offer when if you look past seeing six of your favorite heroes interacting on the big screen the rest of the movie is pretty thin.
Lastly, the comicbook and graphic novel medium is known for having some of the best characters, memorable moments and thought provoking as well as emotionally resonating storylines and they often don't dumb down their themes and material for even their kid audience so why should most of the movies do this?
EX: Spiderman 2 and Pixar movies have/had deep themes while being fun at the same time.
